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Interesting

Huh. A couple months early...

Ya, saw that on the Slaves to Darkness FB page.

Also, Battlescroll update sometime this month!

Edit: On the FB page, dude with the boxed set is posting warscroll and points.

Archaon got pretty sick buffs. 5+ ward only now but works vs both normal and mw's. With more wounds it's almost as tough vs mortals as before and takes 18 non-mortal damage more to one shot him than before...

No rally or inspire within 12" of him(not even wholly within). And points stayed same.

Dark prophecy went from sub faction to his warscroll for once per game ability that opponent gets to see but the new host of archaon is neat giving 4+ rallies for knights and varanguard...

Knights 50% damage boost for lances in charge, outside charge got same extra attack and -1 rend compared to before. 230 pts though. They and warriors 3+ save.

Less aura based buffs than before. Marks just give bonuses.

Considering GW doesn't really do early reviews like that I wonder if its just another case of someone breaching their NDA early

 Overread wrote:
Considering GW doesn't really do early reviews like that I wonder if its just another case of someone breaching their NDA early

It seems that it was a mistake by gw. The person who got the box isn't a reviewer and didn't sign an NDA.

Chikout wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Considering GW doesn't really do early reviews like that I wonder if its just another case of someone breaching their NDA early

It seems that it was a mistake by gw. The person who got the box isn't a reviewer and didn't sign an NDA.

That's a pretty major mistake to make considering the box isn't supposed to be on sale till, what, christmas?! Not surprised GW is stocking up of course, but kinda surprised it slipped out!

I wonder what they ordered that they got this instead? The new KT box?

But yeah i can see it now. End of shift, one last big box to pack, get the next one off the shelf without paying attention and zoom off it goes.

 Overread wrote:
Considering GW doesn't really do early reviews like that I wonder if its just another case of someone breaching their NDA early

Nah. Mistaken box delivery most likely. Isn't even first time somebody gets something mistakenly. Ordered X, got Y instead where Y is yet to be released stuff...

Rare but not unheard of.

We've seen at least two instances in recent history, someone got the Blood Bowl yeti months early, spoiling Norse as the next faction. And they accidentally had a crate of Necromunda Outcasts on sale early at a con.

Tome almost entirely leaked. Manticores no longer bracket, and the overall tome is just insane.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/19/battletome-ogor-mawtribes-is-here-to-bring-freezing-winds-and-brutal-buffets-to-your-battles/

Some nice buffs. Other notes from warhammer+ br.

Underguts extra rend to leadbelchers and cannons.
Leadbelcher stationary=2d3 shots. Might be increased range since they got stationary shots turn 1 going first.

Cannon big shot 2 attacks, 4+, 2+, -2, d3+3 damage. Scatter lots of dice, damage 2, rest wasn't clear(they just showed dice rolling).

Thundermace on tyrant identical to old(this is bit sad. Tyrant isn't THAT scary in combat. Slight buff to output would feel appropriate)

After combat over each enemy within 1" of gutbellies d3 mw on 4+.

Former bloodgullet healing artefact now generic artefact.

Butcher healing ability same as before, warscroll spell same as before.

Look out gnoblar -1 to wound for missile weapons.

There's way to get 2 big names for tyrant. One is 3+ save as before, one is 5+ ward.

+2" movement out of combat, +2 bravery in combat as before.

Ogor charge is now mw on 5+ if you have 3+ models. 4+ if you are monster. Otherwise as before.

All in all liking sound of rules so far.

Khorne/Slaanesh (with banner) warriors getting 4 3+/3+/-1/1 attacks if they're trying to take an objective sounds uh... right up my alley lmao.

Honestly the leaked StD tome is basically exactly what I wanted. Like down to the letter. Rare to see that in any tabletop game these days...

New Warcry box reveal:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/24/chameleon-skinks-hunt-jade-masked-tzeentch-cultists-in-the-new-warcry-box-sundered-fate/

Really like everything in this.

So are Jade Obelisk supposed to be chaos? It sounds like they made a deal with something not exactly chaos-y, though then again the monster looks tzeentchy enough.

 cole1114 wrote:
So are Jade Obelisk supposed to be chaos? It sounds like they made a deal with something not exactly chaos-y, though then again the monster looks tzeentchy enough.

Tzeentch icon on the obelisk, I'm fairly certain. Was from a rumor Engine pic awhile back.

 nels1031 wrote:

 cole1114 wrote:
So are Jade Obelisk supposed to be chaos? It sounds like they made a deal with something not exactly chaos-y, though then again the monster looks tzeentchy enough.

Tzeentch icon on the obelisk, I'm fairly certain. Was from a rumor Engine pic awhile back.

Ah, well, there you go lol. Interested in seeing their StD rules then...

 cole1114 wrote:
So are Jade Obelisk supposed to be chaos? It sounds like they made a deal with something not exactly chaos-y, though then again the monster looks tzeentchy enough.

Most of the gods that the warcry warbands pray too sound "not quite chaos like".

It's intentional, they are peoples, be they tribes, loaners or whole cities and nations, who worship old-gods who aren't Sigmar nor the Great 4 Chaos Gods. However the gods they pray too aren't real and what happens is Greater Demons from one of the Four Chaos Gods, sneak their way in and pretend to be those different deities. That's why some of the warbands can thematically and visually appear similar to two or more of the gods, because a different Chaos Demon will prey on different elements of the belief.

This also means that two different groups of the same faction could have a different focus as each one is praying to a different Chaos God through a Greater Demon.

It's part of showing how the Mortal Realms can be worshipping loads of different gods and how Chaos has become accepted without people realising it.

Not to belabor the point, but :

Chameleon Skinks Hunt Jade-Masked Tzeentch Cultists in the New Warcry Box: Sundered Fate

is the article name

 cole1114 wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:

 cole1114 wrote:
So are Jade Obelisk supposed to be chaos? It sounds like they made a deal with something not exactly chaos-y, though then again the monster looks tzeentchy enough.

Tzeentch icon on the obelisk, I'm fairly certain. Was from a rumor Engine pic awhile back.

Ah, well, there you go lol. Interested in seeing their StD rules then...

Like Rotmire Creed had Maggotkin rules, Jade Obelisk will most likely have Arcanite rules, rather than StD.

 nels1031 wrote:

 cole1114 wrote:
So are Jade Obelisk supposed to be chaos? It sounds like they made a deal with something not exactly chaos-y, though then again the monster looks tzeentchy enough.

Tzeentch icon on the obelisk, I'm fairly certain. Was from a rumor Engine pic awhile back.

And on his loin cloth. Plus they have bird skull icons, which are Tzeentchy. And their pet has wings that look like they’re from a screamer

I was Just telling my group I was tempted to start a Lizardmen army, and now they show off this so we’re looking at Warcry.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 nels1031 wrote:

 cole1114 wrote:
So are Jade Obelisk supposed to be chaos? It sounds like they made a deal with something not exactly chaos-y, though then again the monster looks tzeentchy enough.

Tzeentch icon on the obelisk, I'm fairly certain. Was from a rumor Engine pic awhile back.

And on his loin cloth. Plus they have bird skull icons, which are Tzeentchy. And their pet has wings that look like they’re from a screamer

It’s explicitly said that they’re Tzeentch in the article title, as mentioned above.

The skink swinging his/her balls in the air, is that some sort of skin flap under the chin?

 Rolsheen wrote:
The skink swinging his/her balls in the air, is that some sort of skin flap under the chin?

could be a 'dewlap' which is a feature some male lizards use to attract mates. Which would make me laugh that he's swinging his balls around if it is the case

Who knows if true.

I can't see them not releasing CoS next year. They're already showing off bits of models we all know are finished.

JSG wrote:
I can't see them not releasing CoS next year. They're already showing off bits of models we all know are finished.

My personal prediction for CoS (with zero evidence whatsoever) is that it will be in the new AoS 4 starter. That's what I'd like anyway.

JSG wrote:
I can't see them not releasing CoS next year. They're already showing off bits of models we all know are finished.

Could be winter. Note that's not full year.


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 lare2 wrote:

JSG wrote:
I can't see them not releasing CoS next year. They're already showing off bits of models we all know are finished.

My personal prediction for CoS (with zero evidence whatsoever) is that it will be in the new AoS 4 starter. That's what I'd like anyway.

Stormcast vs COS?

Seeing stormcast is there for sure.

Stormcast have fought Cities of Sigmar before. You get a bunch of Chaos infections in a region, a few slightly unhinged Stormcast and suddenly they decide the best thing to do is purge the population and the population do not like that.

Heck it would be a neat way to present that lore to the bulk of the fanbase in a very upfront manner to show that the Stormcast are not the pure saviours many would hope for