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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 03:21:11
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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I'm trying to find weapons that ignore invul saves and I cant think of a single one... HELP!
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:RIP: E.A.R.
:RIP: N.A.B.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 03:40:15
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Necron warscythes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 03:41:25
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Psicannons, Incinerator, and Psicannon Bolter Ammo, all of which are found on the Daemonhunter armoury.
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 03:43:36
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Necron Warscythe
Callidus Assassin's C'tan Phase Knife
Daemon Hunter's Psycannon
Daemon Hunter's Incinerator
Close Combat attacks from a C'tan also ignore Invulnerables, but that's slightly different since it's an inbuilt feature, rather than a weapon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 04:52:58
Subject: Re:Anti-Invul?
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Dreadaxe...oh wait =/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/20 05:15:06
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Why look for them? Callidus assassin is the most widely available.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 09:41:51
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New Jersey
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Psycannon bolts can also be taken in the WH armoury.
Also the WH psychic power scourging ignores invuln saves
All C'tan melee attacks
The SM librarian's power null zone forces reroll on invuln saves which isnt quite the same but might help (do swarmlords do this too?)
that's all I got right now, hope it helps
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"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 11:21:35
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Grey Knights LR flamestorm also has blessed promethium
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 11:53:15
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Gift of chaos and Mind Worm are psychic powers that do not sallow invunerable saves, though they don't cause any wounds per se. Also, @Asimo-You're right, the Swarmlords bone sabres force Invun rerolls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 12:19:01
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Agree with the others, Necron Warsythe there is also my wifes cutting sacasm. Ignores all of my armour saves all of the time!
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If I am not in my room, is it still my room? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/22 13:34:05
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Swarmlord can force you to reroll invul saves in close combat...if he lives to get there. Good luck with that though, the dude's a bullet magnet while he runs across the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/23 07:38:19
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Secret lab at the bottom of Lake Superior
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Most invuln ignoring stuff is in the older, not yet updated codexes. At most in the 5th ed. codexes you'll find forced rerolls. I always thought they were called invuln. saves for a reason: you can't take them away.
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Commissar NIkev wrote:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/23 08:07:45
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Power-Hungry Cultist of Tzeentch
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The marine spell null zone makes your opponent reroll all inv saves within 24". This really hurts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/23 08:16:46
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New Jersey
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micahaphone wrote:Most invuln ignoring stuff is in the older, not yet updated codexes. At most in the 5th ed. codexes you'll find forced rerolls. I always thought they were called invuln. saves for a reason: you can't take them away.
I always imagined invuln saves representing things like force fields, psychic barriers, and uber luck rather than saves that can never be denied
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"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/23 08:39:03
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Yeah, that's what they are.
That's why there are special things describing those ignoring the invulnerable saves.
Anything that is blessing (IE GreyKnights weapons) is blessed with the cast-off of the Emperor's Psychic powers.
That makes sense enough for it to go straight through invulnerable saves, as the shield simply cannon absorb/deflect/block it.
Whereas in the case of a C'Tan Phase Sword, it is made of the same material as the C'Tan's bodys, which are able to pass through anything, going into alternate dimensions and such, so it's easy for it to pass straight through an energy shield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/23 21:44:13
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Stalwart Tribune
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Necron Daculus, for example.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/23 21:46:34
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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How has no-one mentioned Jaws of the World wolf yet? Oh, and for C'Tan killing, you want a Drop Pod of Sternguard Veterans. One round of "Average" rolling equals 5.25 wounds. Which is also equal to 1 dead C'Tan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/24 06:07:48
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New Jersey
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I love all the bizzare stat quirks concerning C'tan like how veteran guardsman are better shots than the Deciever, A lord Commisar has the same WS as the Deciver and is better at shooting than both C'tan.
Random fools get EW but the star gods don't.
Wraithlords have the same S and T as the Nightbringer. The list goes on and could have it's own thread tbh.
I guess being alive since the Big Bang isn't all it's cracked up to be : P
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"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/24 10:59:08
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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1) That's Lord Commissar Ciaphas Cain to you!
2) C'tan are roughly up to scratch with Avatar and other Greater Deamons. It's their fault they got tricked into eating each other.
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After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/24 23:47:17
Subject: Anti-Invul?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New Jersey
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I don't think the C'tan belong in the game at all, even apocalypse. I mean they ate stars for breakfast, converted an entire race into mindless robo-slaves (funnily enough they gave their wraiths better saves than themselves) nearly wiped out all life in the galaxy, one of them invented the fear of death for everyone cept da orkz.
I mean how can a Wraithlord have S10 and T8 when they're probably 1000's of them spread across all the craftworlds and there are only 2 awoken C'tan. Does S10 represent a power range between a wraithsword and the ability to wipe out entire races?
Also it doesn't make sense that an Avatar or something would be the equal of one, when you consider Khaine had a big ass fight with the Nightbringer. And this is Khaine not an avatar, so it would be like all the avatars' power across all craftworlds put back togethor humpty-dumpty style. But in game terms a sliver of Khaine's might has more WS and BS than the thing that fought him at full strength.
ok this sad necron player is done ranting, ungimp us GW, pretty pl0x
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"Order. Unity. Obedience. We taught the galaxy these things, and we shall do so again."
"They are not your worst nightmare; they are your every nightmare."
"Let the galaxy burn!"
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