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**Pennywise**

Just started WotR uruk hai army, I got the set of 20 to start off, and I am gonna get a leader, what would you recommend?

**fellblade**

Saruman. Lurtz is also good. Take Thrydan Wolfbane any time you are facing Rohirrim, he is crazy good against the Pony-boys.

**Pennywise**

Ok I'll get Thrydan then since they guy I will be playing most plays rohirrim.

**orchewer**

I'd take Saruman for the magical abilities he can whip out.

**Pennywise**

Yeah he is probably pretty badass but my first leader I'll buy will be the wolfbane.

**Chaos Lord Gir**

Well it depends on your army build, the leader should compliment it.

If your just going to drive a huge Warband of Uruk-Hai straight into the enemy, Lurtz at the front is seriously going to wreck havoc, even against Cavalry due to his 'Epic Rage!' option, which treats enemy resiliance as 1, making a Cavalry formation nothing more than a two man butchery stand.

Saruman is expensive, but arguably the best Epic magic user in the game. Using him gives you the other options of the spells of Ruin and dismay/Command I believe. Besides, who dosn't love throwing fireballs into enemy formations? Perfect for taking down those Ents or flanking formations.

Wolfsbane is just awesome. I mean I plan on getting Lurtz and Wolfsbane to lead my army, which will just be Uruk-Hai Warbands, Scouts and as many trolls as I can get my devious hands on!

**Pennywise**

I think I might actually get saruman cause I don't have a lot of money at the moment and he sounds pretty awesome.

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Or what would be good against rohan and moria goblins

**Chaos Lord Gir**

Pennywise wrote:
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Or what would be good against rohan and moria goblins

Well against Rohan- Uruk-Hai Phalanxs really is the bane of them, they do not recieve a charge bonus, so it is a real slaughter-fest if you brought them down to 2 attacks, since Uruk's fight value is atleast equal to Rohan soliders and Riders.

Against Moria Goblins- IMO the answer is simple, grab your Uruk-Hai Warband, and plow directly into the goblins. your Fight, Strength and defence value is all superior, and they are going to fall in droves. It'd take a obscene amount of Goblins to entirely take out a whole Uruk-hai Warband.

another truely expensive (110 points a company! more than a troll) is Uruk-Hai Berserkers. If anything is going to smash through goblins in one go your money is on these guys. On a good note, goblins are hardly famed for their shooting, so charge them straight in!

Hope this helps you Pennywise ^^

**Pennywise**

Wow this is great, now I'm thinking of getting those berserkers and what exactly is a warband and a phalanxs, I am guessing those are the pikes. WOW just looked up the berserkers and it 18 bucks for 3, thats awesome, gotta get myself 2 of those sets.

**Chaos Lord Gir**

Pennywise wrote:Wow this is great, now I'm thinking of getting those berserkers and what exactly is a warband and a phalanxs, I am guessing those are the pikes. WOW just looked up the berserkers and it 18 bucks for 3, thats awesome, gotta get myself 2 of those sets.

A Uruk-Hai Phalanx is one equipped entirely with Pikes as you have guessed,

A Uruk-Hai Warband is your normal run of the mill Uruk-Hai equipped with either- Hand weapon/+shield, or Crossbows.
Crossbows are a mixed blessing, Str 4 24" shooting will ruin anyone's day, even Shield bonuses don't count for much. BUT it is a 'move or shoot', so actually getting your Uruk's in range and then firing is hard, and almost impossible against a good Rohan player

Plus the models only come in blisters of 3, and its 8 a company, so its always quite annoying trying to get a nice even amount.

I plan on getting Berserkers, more for the shock value than anything else, I mean who in their right mind wouldn't fear Insane, Berserker infantry with amazing strength and can quite easily slay entire formations or a troll/ent/Legendary formations as if they wern't there?!

Hope you find my advice helpful ^^

**Doop Dude**

Stick to SBG. That's what I say.

Peace

**skrulnik**

If you use crossbows, you have to play the "come and get me" game. Putting them on the edge of a company of Phalanx to protect works nicely and prevents flanking.
Against Rohan, you shouldn't be going after them, as you can't predict where they will end up. You have to turtle.

Explain to me how a 24" range is difficult to use. Are you playing on 6'x8' tables?
A company on each flank gives you coverage of everything except the enemy deployment zone.

**Pennywise**

This advice is really helpfull, I think the next time I go up to GW I'll get sauruman and berserkers. What are warg riders good for?

**skrulnik**

Haven't quite figured Wargs out yet. I keep getting them shot to gak by Rohan riders, then charged.

Their rules say they want to outflank, but you need something to draw attention to allow it.
Otherwise RoRohan can just outmanuever them and shoot them.

Maybe I need some Berserkers as well.

I suppose you can have them hang behind your line and counter-charge.
Coming out from behind after the swords or pike are engaged.

**Chaos Lord Gir**

The main issue I seem to have with Uruk-Hai Crossbows is just no matter how hard I try, they always seem to find a way to charge them. The most annoying example being a Ent ambushing out of nowhere, due to the first time I played against an Ent and I didn't know they could just pop out of a forest

Warg Riders are just skirmishers IMO, I'd keep them next to the units flanking and anchoring my main Uruk-Hai Warband's flanks. The flank units charge and the Wargs jump around and benifit from 'Prowlers'. However I think a Troll charging directly into them is just as effective as Wargs jumping up from behind...

**ZoomDakkaDakka**

Heh Ents.
The different leaders all have their own uses, but the most important thing is that you be yourself!

**Pennywise**

Yes, be yourself.

**Doop Dude**

Haha, WotR sounds really complicated. Flanking flanking the flanks of flanking flankers.... ??

**ZoomDakkaDakka**

All that flanking must have taken some kind of tactical geni-
CREEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!

**orchewer**

Maybe just get some Uruk-hai Engineers ... that way when your lines get charged ... EXPLODE

**Chaos Lord Gir**

orchewer wrote:Maybe just get some Uruk-hai Engineers ... that way when your lines get charged ... EXPLODE

What if they get sniped by archers, once they all die, KA-BOOM!...Even if they're in your own lines.

**orchewer**

Keep them in the back and distract the archers with a nice juicy troll-shaped target charging towards them.