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OK, so I was flicking through my GK codex which I downloaded from the GW website, and i saw this:
"another strength of the daemonhunters army list is the ease with which it can be integrated with existing armies. if you already have an imperial army such as the imperial guard or the space marines, , it can easily be incorporated into the daemonhunters list. for instance, a space marine player may choose to lead his force into battle with a grey knight grand master and his retinue of terminators...conversely we allow rules that allow the opponennt to take packs of daemons in thier force..."
is this still legal in the 5th ed.?

if so, it'll make this army so much cheaper to buy...

I didn't know the download able 'dex had the allies rules?

It is grudging legal in 5th edition for a few months more, until Grey Knights get a new Codex probably next January.

yes you can still use GKs as allies.

till January when your all PWND

Grey Templar wrote:yes you can still use GKs as allies.

till January when your all PWND

Yes! Another couple of months minimum during which I can have GKT's with a Eviscerator flailing ministorium priest!...

why not have Evisorator flailing GKs?

Brother Captains and GKGMs can get evisorators and so can justicars(if they purchase Artificer armor first that is)

Grey Templar wrote:why not have Evisorator flailing GKs?

Brother Captains and GKGMs can get evisorators and so can justicars(if they purchase Artificer armor first that is)

But they cost more then a priest and I don't remember them giving re-roll to hit in CC.

who needs re-rolls when you hit on 3s

Grey Templar wrote:who needs re-rolls when you hit on 3s

Some one who doesnt just want to destroy what they're hitting... but also wants to completely obliterate it... example, my friend tyrannofex when confronted by my GKT's

Back on topic please...

Your question was answered - however the downloadable dex does NOT have the actual ally rules in it, you must buy the paper copy for that. For example you have restrictions on what units you can purchase, etc.

Ähm, where do i get this downloadable codex from the Grey Knights?
cant seem to find it on the GW site...

would be really helpful, i have so many spare SM models that i plan on converting some of them in GKs...

thx alot

You probably need to have registered, quite a few items are absent unless you are logged into the site.

As said - if you plan to ally you will need the Paper copy of the codex, as this actually has the rules for allies within it.

all the PDF stuff should be avaliable for anyone.


look under DH and WH articles.

Thanks guys, found it with your help. got also a nice pdf about the legion of the damned.
great community and many thanks again^^

nosferatu1001 wrote:Your question was answered - however the downloadable dex does NOT have the actual ally rules in it, you must buy the paper copy for that. For example you have restrictions on what units you can purchase, etc.

actually, i was going to buy the paper copy, but GW has stopped selling it.

Some stores have stocks, or you can just use ebay

Kroothawk wrote:It is grudging legal in 5th edition for a few months more, until Grey Knights get a new Codex probably next January.

Hopefully they just make one big one called Inquisitional Forces

GKs will be getting their own book(like how it was to begin with)


they may or may not combine the Inquisition into one codex.


more likely, because hardly anyone plays inquisition themed, they will make Codex: SoB after Codex: GKs and the inquisition becomes part of the next Guard codex OR gets squatted.

Grey Templar wrote:more likely, because hardly anyone plays inquisition themed

And why do you think that is? Because GW didn't make any Plastic Models and gave them poor rules.

Gwar! wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:more likely, because hardly anyone plays inquisition themed

And why do you think that is? Because GW didn't make any Plastic Models and gave them poor rules.

Not to mention that point for point most of them are now much less value per point. When sisters get their 40pt immolator and storm troopers get their 55pts chimeras (not to mention a price drop or better weapons) we'll see shed loads of players, metal or not.

To be fair, if the rules stay how the are now, 40 points for an Immolator is a little too low. A BA Razorback can do the same as the Immolator but for more points, although it does get the option to go flat out.

I would say 45 Points is fair, so long as it keeps the move 12" and fire rule.

Gwar! wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:more likely, because hardly anyone plays inquisition themed

And why do you think that is? Because GW didn't make any Plastic Models and gave them poor rules.

SoB and GKs don't have any plastic yet lots of people play them(relativly speaking)


i would guess that 95% of DH and WH sales are in GKs and SoB models.

and that other 5% is 2% Guard players buying the ISTs because the sculpts are cool. and 2% is Guard players buying Inquisitors, Mystics, and Assaissins for their Guard armies.


as a GK player i only proxy Inquisitors when i feel like trying an assaissin out.

Grey Templar wrote:as a GK player i only proxy Inquisitors when i feel like trying an assaissin out.

It all makes sense. Assassin are a points sink and unless you know what you're doing will do nothing for you.

There is only one assassin to take (in 5th) the Callidus Assassin, she moves a unit out of position, can be placed any where, with no scatter, and has a Str8 AP1 flamer (Vs Ld rather then toughness). You'll be hard pressed for her not to earn her points back.

The inquisitors them selves can be thought of as special/Heavy weapons teams with added rules. DH can take mystics that give you a chance to shoot all DSing models. WH can ignores the first wound he takes turn.

(gah my spelling)

Gwar! wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:more likely, because hardly anyone plays inquisition themed

And why do you think that is? Because GW didn't make any Plastic Models and gave them poor rules.

sigged!

...you dug this thread up to say that?

SaintHazard wrote:...you dug this thread up to say that?

sheesh, sorry...
and technically, you saying that digs the thread up again, so it kinda defeats the purpose of what you're saying...


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Grey Templar wrote:

Gwar! wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:more likely, because hardly anyone plays inquisition themed

And why do you think that is? Because GW didn't make any Plastic Models and gave them poor rules.

SoB and GKs don't have any plastic yet lots of people play them(relativly speaking)


i would guess that 95% of DH and WH sales are in GKs and SoB models.

and that other 5% is 2% Guard players buying the ISTs because the sculpts are cool. and 2% is Guard players buying Inquisitors, Mystics, and Assaissins for their Guard armies.


as a GK player i only proxy Inquisitors when i feel like trying an assaissin out.

What's the other 1%

the other 1% is DH players who actually play a combined force and use ISTs as ISTs

Grey Templar wrote:yes you can still use GKs as allies.

till January when your all PWND

JUST YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH

January....

or possably Feb.


the clock is ticking.