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Ok, so here's my updated list.


Warboss-Bike,Klaw
Big Mek-KFF,PK

5 Lootas
5 Lootas
5 Nobz-2PK,2BC,waaagh banner,bosspole,painboy,eavy armor,Battlewagon w/big shoota,grabbin klaw,deffrolla,boarding plank

5 Nob Bikers-2PK,2 big choppas,painboy,waaagh! banner,bosspole
18 Boys-Nob w/PK,BP
18 Boys-Nob w/PK,BP
10 Grots-Runtherd

2 Warbuggies-Rokkits
2 Warbuggies-Rokkits
2 Warbuggies-Rokkits

Battlewagon-Deffrolla,boarding plank,big shoota,grabbin klaw
Battlewagon-Deffrolla,boarding plank,big shoota,grabbin klaw
Battlewagon-Deffrolla,boarding plank,big shoota,grabbin klaw

2000 points

deff rolla and boarding plank pretty much do the same thing with a power klaw so I would drop one option. dont see a point to the 10 grots (unless they shield the lootas or something)

or trade a boarding plank for another big shootta, if theres something better than a big soota is TWO big shootas

I made a variation that uses Warbuggies.

Warboss-PK,Bike
Big Mek-KFF

14 Lootas
14 Lootas
13 Burnas

4 Nob Bikers-PK,2 big choppas,waaagh banners,bosspole, painboy,cybork bodies
20 Boys-Nob w/PK,BP
18 Boys-Nob w/PK,BP
10 grots-runtherd

2 Warbuggies-Rokkits
2 Warbuggies-Rokkits
1 Warbuggy-Rokkits

Battlewagon-Deffrolla,big shoota,boarding plank
Battlewagon-Deffrolla,big shoota,boarding plank
Battlewagon-Deffrolla,big shoota,boarding plank


So I lost some Burnas which shouldn't matter much, and some Bikers, which is my only concern.

Which list is better?

i think the second ones better more dakka in the bikes to buy some time but however i guess it matters who you will fight with

agreed. 2nd list tears through the marines, but horde armies, like nids? you want those two flamers.

I could also drop 3 of the burnas and a loota and get an extra Nob Biker if I really need it.

yep and those rollas would be handy

squish that bug!!!

Armor Plates and Grot Riggers both seem real nice. The plates keep you moving against 1/2 of glancing hits and 1/3 of penetrating hits and the Riggers can be huge against early immobilized results (which can happen on both glancing and penetrating hits).

I would go with all or no burnas, 13 are good for shooting but any less is not very effective in an assault because there I2.

RPJ are a must on all ork transports!

Shoota or slugga boyz in the wagons?

I would only run 1 unit of 3 rokkit buggies.

Grot riggers are nice but i have never been a fan of armor plates as they only helps on rolls of 1.

That's a lot of lootas. I would also think about finding room for some buzzkopta so you can take out more transport T1.

Make sure you take the bikers a troops and your list should work fine.


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Oh your boss needs a cybork body and a attack squig.

sickening wrote:I would go with all or no burnas, 13 are good for shooting but any less is not very effective in an assault because there I2.

Agreed, I'll bump them to 13, but I'll have to bring the Lootas to 12 each, if thats enough, which I think it is.

RPJ are a must on all ork transports!

Hmm, they are OK, but I don't think I have the room, i can do without.

Shoota or slugga boyz in the wagons?

Shootas

That's a lot of lootas. I would also think about finding room for some buzzkopta so you can take out more transport T1.

Koptas are nice, but I think Buggies are generaly better.

Oh your boss needs a cybork body and a attack squig.

I didn't really have the points, and those things aren't as neccesary.

i think i agree with buggyes are cheaper and no instakill, also the cybork boddy is not that necesary i mean hes on bike right? if not a cybork its good also the squig cuz that way you get an extra attack without replacing ani other equipment

Sorry but I love RPJ! Its a game on inches and every one counts! Also you can now make 7 and still shoot but your opponent needs to roll a 6 to hit your wagons all for 15 points. Nids will hate you.

Buggies are better for shooting but koptas can get a T1 assault on transport that have not moved yet for some auto hits.

So a invul save on your HQ that will be in CC is not neccesary?

5++ invul isn't that great. Either they weapon won't ignore his save and he'll get 4+, it will be a PW that isn't high enough str to threaten T6, or its a PW that's high enough to wound him, which in most cases is enough to kill him even with the cybork.

Plus I don't have 10 point free that are less valuable.

Again if you are taking a deffrolla you don't need a plank. there are some easy to cut points.

Snikkyd wrote:5++ invul isn't that great. Either they weapon won't ignore his save and he'll get 4+, it will be a PW that isn't high enough str to threaten T6, or its a PW that's high enough to wound him, which in most cases is enough to kill him even with the cybork.

Plus I don't have 10 point free that are less valuable.

But you feel spending more points so your nobz have the 5++ is more valuable? I am just saying he is a hard hitter that will have some attacks stacked on top of him and would hate kicking my self for not spending the extra 10 points on him.

Rollas and planks are a good combo if you fail to do the job with your ram. LANDRAIDER!

I updated the original list. Any better?

There's lots of tweaks possible in this army. I actually made yet another variation, but this one's way different.

Biker Boss
KFF Mek w/Klaw
5 Lootas
5 Lootas
5 Nobs w/ Wagon
5 Biker Nobs
18 Shootas w/Nob
18 Shootas w/Nob
10 Grots
2 Rokkit Buggies
2 Rokkit Buggies
2 Rokkit Buggies
Wagon
Wagon
Wagon


So Mek will go with the Grots in one of the Wagons, making him less of a target. He has a Klaw to do boarding plank assaults from the wagon.

well the big mek why not change the PK for a burna it is possible and you would have a close combat beast and cheaper!

The most recent list has merit, depending very much on how you arm them it could be potent.

wyrd boy of da naith wrote:well the big mek why not change the PK for a burna it is possible and you would have a close combat beast and cheaper!

Its there so he can make boarding plank assaults.

a ok

Snikkyd wrote:

wyrd boy of da naith wrote:well the big mek why not change the PK for a burna it is possible and you would have a close combat beast and cheaper!

Its there so he can make boarding plank assaults.

But you already have nob with PK who is as good as mek (same WS, same S, and same A)... And only 1 model can use boarding plak... I'd drop it and spend it on other things...

Chinchilla wrote:

Snikkyd wrote:

wyrd boy of da naith wrote:well the big mek why not change the PK for a burna it is possible and you would have a close combat beast and cheaper!

Its there so he can make boarding plank assaults.

But you already have nob with PK who is as good as mek (same WS, same S, and same A)... And only 1 model can use boarding plak... I'd drop it and spend it on other things...

The Mek goes with the Grots, not Boys.