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Now a thought just occured to me. Say you have a Banewolf equipped with a multimelta. There is an enemy tank Say 12" away from the multimelta so you fire it at the tank and resolve normally. However, in between you and the tank there is a squad of infantry standing there within template range. Announcing that you are also firing the chem cannon at the tank, you lay down the flame template to discover that oh noes the tank is not covered by the template, BUT the squad of infantry is. Would you then resolve the template weapon attack against the squad of infantry since template weapons auto-hit whatever they cover? Or would you ignore it as all shots that are fired at targets that are out of range automatically miss?

That is a very good question... I know that you can do that if the tank is within template range, but I don't know about this scenario.

Subscribed, I must know...

If a target is out of range, the weapon does not fire.

Or at the least it is an auto miss. If the template does not reach the target, the template is not used.

How it works is like this.

You can fire the Template, but if it does not reach the target, it automatically misses.

If it DID reach the target, it would hit the unit in-between.

So basically:

MOST HOLY™ BANEWOLF©™ ---3"---Toasty Xenos----9"-----Xenos Tank

results in the flamer missing, but:

MOST HOLY™ BANEWOLF©™ ---3"---Toasty Xenos----2"-----Xenos Tank

results in toasted Xenos scum, even if the template weapon could not possibly harm the foul Xenos Tank.

Alright then. That answers my question. Thanks everyone. But for the record it'd be TOXIC PILES OF FORMER XENOS SLUDGE instead of toasty ones.

You would have to cover your target (the enemy tank) with as much of the template as possible. Template Weapons are on p29.

Can you still fire the template weapon and hit an intervening unit if the target vehicle is too high AV to be damaged by the template?

Yes. There is no requirement for the weapon to be able to damage its target in order to hit it.

ok, so another one. Let's say that template covers to squads. Then I want to add some HB dakka. So... which one is initial target (since every weapon on tank must fire at the same unit)?

You have to declare it beforehand.

The one you declare to be the target. Firing a template weapon does not exempt you from the initial step of shooting, which is to declare your target.

Hm, fair enough

Yes; declare a target, and then place your template to cover as many models/as much of that target as you can. Any other unit you happen to hit is an extra bonus.

Your other non-template pewpew will be at that first target.

I had a command squad fire its flamers and some of my guard squad on the other side of said target were touched by the flamer. I took my wounds its not the same but if a flamer touches something even if its not the target it should count.

Uhm, the rules for templates say you have to cover as much of the enemy without hitting your own.

That's correct. If you can't hit the enemy without hitting yourself, you can't hit anything. I recently had a SW player think he was awfully clever fencing in some of my Orks with Rhinos and trying to flame me.

"Gee, I dunno how you're gonna do that!"

Did not know that not like it happens often but figured it was like the blast marker if it scatters on your own they take hits my bad

I believe that when blast markers scatter on your own you take wounds from yourself, I think.

Anyway, the thing is you can not INTENTIONALLY target yourself.

Arctik_Firangi wrote:That's correct. If you can't hit the enemy without hitting yourself, you can't hit anything. I recently had a SW player think he was awfully clever fencing in some of my Orks with Rhinos and trying to flame me.

"Gee, I dunno how you're gonna do that!"

I see what you did there. You are a bad man! On Reflection, what I saw was wrong. It's 430 am, and I need to sleep. D: You are still a bad man!

And to clarify, no, you cannot place the Template to touch ANYTHING of yours, even if it causes you to hit less models. If it means you cannot hit any models without hitting your own, then you cannot hit any enemy models, so be careful with the flamer placement.