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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/30 23:10:51
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I know that I want to get a lot of boys but I don't want to be confined to mostly assault tactics. I want to shoot a lot as well. I was thinking something along the lines of this:
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Warboss - 100 pts
-Power Klaw
-Twin Linked Shoota
-Cybork Body
-All of that is on the AoBR model so I am taking it
Troops
Squad 1 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 regular Boyz
Squad 2 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 regular Boyz
Squad 3 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 shoota Boyz
Nobs Squad - 230 pts
10 Nobz 1 w/ power klaw and bosspole
All that still leaves me with 510 more points to spend. I kind of want to get a squad with a trukks but I have seen people say it is better to keep your army together then then have them spread out across the table because of trukks. But I just want to know what to add to my list (or take off) to change things up a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/30 23:31:39
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Screamin' Stormboy
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it depens a lot your kind of gaming, if you want to go fast put some bugies, koptas, bikes and trukks
if you want dakka put lots of lootas and burnas, zzap gunz and shitte
but i think you could use spme dreads and kans with big shootas range 36 assault 3 suport fire cuz if they fight agains marine they will fly before they reach ahlf the table
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i juzt want to go more fazta |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/30 23:59:31
Subject: Re:Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Roarin' Runtherd
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From your current list I would add 2 more 30 man squads of boyz for 440. The last 70 points can fit a deffkopta w/ TL rokkits and buzzsaw.
If you go first the deffkopta goes in the front of your deployment, turbo-boosts in the scout move forward, then moves 12" in your turn to shoot side armor on a vehicle and assault w/ auto-hits.
If you go second then you hold it in reserve.
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You must understand that for an ork a day that starts off killing something with your bare hands, and ends with those same hands being chopped off in battle, is a good one.
What's betta than one choppa? Two choppas!!! Two choppas is one more than...is one times da...IS LOTS MORE FUN!! WAAAAGH!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 00:02:40
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Lord of the Fleet
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Since you already got 100 guys, go for more! a Green Tide is a tough thing to beat with so many bodies with fearless. just watch out for manticores!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 00:07:31
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Agreed, If you don't mind painting them, then go for a green tide. In the 1500 point list the nobz would be dropped and another Warboss would be taken along with 3 other full boyz mobz. Would not want to face that army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 00:09:34
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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The kan wall is better!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 00:11:58
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Screamin' Stormboy
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but as i said whats yer style boy?
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i juzt want to go more fazta |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 00:31:46
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I like to get up close but I also like to shoot a little bit. I was thinking about going green tide but then I was thinking about how much that was going to cost and how much there would be to paint.
I have also seen people say that if you go green tide then you really only have 1 tactic. Thats why I kind of want some more diversity in my army because I like to use different tactics every game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 00:51:32
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Screamin' Stormboy
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well trukks and battlewaggons i say that way you still have lots of boyz and the big gunz can go in the vehicules
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i juzt want to go more fazta |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 01:09:59
Subject: Re:Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
Right behind you. No, really.
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you'll have difficulties with orks mate. big green things with a coupla brain cells each dont tend to change their battle plan. dont really have a battle plan, either, just an axe an' sumthin ta chop.
make the boyz shoota if you want shooty. Also, loota the crap outa stuff. lootas are nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 01:48:31
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Flashy Flashgitz
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I am a firm believer in lootas for any walking ork force, walking is slow and you need the ability to open transports before you get there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 04:21:11
Subject: Re:Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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HQ
Warboss - 100 pts
-Power Klaw
-Twin Linked Shoota
-Cybork Body
-All of that is on the AoBR model so I am taking it
Elites
15 Lootas - 225 pts
Troops
Squad 1 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 regular Boyz
Squad 2 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 regular Boyz
Squad 3 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 shoota Boyz
Nobs Squad - 230 pts
10 Nobz 1 w/ power klaw and bosspole
Trukk Squad - 162 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-11 shoota Boyz
-Trukk w/ reinforced ram and armor plates
Heavy Support
3 Killa Kans - 120 pts
- 3 Big Shootas
Total 1497 pts.
Look good so far?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 05:17:14
Subject: Re:Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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akbar13 wrote:HQ
Warboss - 100 pts
-Power Klaw
-Twin Linked Shoota
-Cybork Body
-All of that is on the AoBR model so I am taking it
Get a KFF Mek.
Elites
15 Lootas - 225 pts
I'd split these into three mobz of five each. Can shoot more targets that way.
Troops
Squad 1 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 regular Boyz
Squad 2 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 regular Boyz
Squad 3 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 shoota Boyz
Nobs Squad - 230 pts
10 Nobz 1 w/ power klaw and bosspole
I would drop this. Footslogging nobz aren't very good and these are kitted poorly as well.
Trukk Squad - 162 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-11 shoota Boyz
-Trukk w/ reinforced ram and armor plates
Drop this. Footsloggers and Trukks don't mix
Heavy Support
3 Killa Kans - 120 pts
- 3 Big Shootas
Get six More and Put Rokkits on 6, Grotzookas on three
Total 1497 pts.
Look good so far?
Also, birthday post.
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Orks W-L-D
27-10-8
Daemons W-L-D
6-5-3
Warboss Lemmy's Speed Freaks: 1730pts painted
+ Skullbearers: 750pts painted
DT:90S++G+MB-I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/hWD-R+++T(T)DM+
My Battle Reports: Orks against: Tau , Tau , Tau |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 20:33:28
Subject: Re:Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Claypool wrote:akbar13 wrote:HQ
Warboss - 100 pts
-Power Klaw
-Twin Linked Shoota
-Cybork Body
-All of that is on the AoBR model so I am taking it
Get a KFF Mek.
Elites
15 Lootas - 225 pts
I'd split these into three mobz of five each. Can shoot more targets that way.
Troops
Squad 1 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 regular Boyz
Squad 2 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 regular Boyz
Squad 3 - 220 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-29 shoota Boyz
Nobs Squad - 230 pts
10 Nobz 1 w/ power klaw and bosspole
I would drop this. Footslogging nobz aren't very good and these are kitted poorly as well.
Trukk Squad - 162 pts
-1 Nob w/ power klaw and bosspole
-11 shoota Boyz
-Trukk w/ reinforced ram and armor plates
Drop this. Footsloggers and Trukks don't mix
Heavy Support
3 Killa Kans - 120 pts
- 3 Big Shootas
Get six More and Put Rokkits on 6, Grotzookas on three
Total 1497 pts.
Look good so far?
Also, birthday post.
I dropped what you said and added the Big Mek. I still have the warboss or should I get rid of him too? And I got 9 Kans as well. All of that is 1505 pts.
Does anyone else have any suggestions before I go out and buy 1 billion dollars worth of models?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 21:30:33
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Screamin' Stormboy
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well take it for a test ride
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i juzt want to go more fazta |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 04:00:59
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Sinewy Scourge
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Drop the Bosspoles on the mobs of 30 boyz, if you feel you need them, then you should look at what exactly has happened for you to need it: a) You have lost 2/3rds of the unit to take a leadership test, b) At 10 models or less, the leadership reroll comes at price of reducing the unit to 9 models, c) The only time where this is beneficial is if the unit is in melee with something you want to keep tarpitted, however if something is able to chew through that many boyz in melee, you should be engaging it at range, Khorne Berzerkers come to mind, d) after surviving the morale failure the unit is left with sufficient numbers for them to no longer be an effective tarpit, e) Bosspoles are only of use to Boyz mobs when they're part of a Trukk Rush strategy, or you're using ~20 in a battlewagon and you expect melee to be more costly then normal, eg SW, BA or BT over other MEQ. Strategy-wise, if you want to shift strategies and going into matches with a selection of strategies; play MEQ. Orks follow set builds, look for some of Dash of Pepper's posts in the last month, he's copy-pasted a particular lengthy rant that then moves into a very informative breakdown on the fundamental mechanics of the Orks, including the builds that Orks can run. Remember this: We Do Not Powerbuild, We Build The Way Our Codex Works. Furthermore Orks do not play hybrid builds. The whole codex does not work like that, sure if Looted wagons and Flash Gitz had been buffed like I've proposed you could run close to a hybrid of several builds, but it would still be sub-par to the solid lists we know and use. Ork units are not all rounders. Orks do one thing, usually up close, usually with quite a nasty method, few ork units can multi-role and those that do must be geared for each role separately, the only exception are Lootas, those guys are hands down the best unit overall in the dex, Shoota boyz, Nobz and Battlewagons come close mind you, but Lootas just go nuts on everything. The only thing that they don't do is AV14, PKs do that.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/09/01 04:14:14
Also littlenibbler Orks aren't about armour saves.
Orks are about having too many models on the table, and wasting the other guy's time with your movement phase.
Orks are about having the toughest units on the table.
Orks are about not caring about how many bodies are left in a long winding trail until the squad is down to less than a third its starting strength.
Orks are about rolling more dice then you can count without the aid of a calculator or a pen and paper.
Orks are about having totally fething insane characters tearing gak down like Doc Grotsnik, Ghazghkull or Snikrot.
Orks are about being too fething awesome to die...
Lets settle this in the arena http://pantsformer.mybrute.com |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 04:52:09
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Never ever drop boss poles, they keep power claws in the fight, I've been down to the lone nob then have him take the combat then continue to rip apart nearby tanks, 5 points to keep a 25 point klaw in the fight? anytime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 05:54:25
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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^Scruffy says second.
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Orks W-L-D
27-10-8
Daemons W-L-D
6-5-3
Warboss Lemmy's Speed Freaks: 1730pts painted
+ Skullbearers: 750pts painted
DT:90S++G+MB-I+Pw40k09#+D++A+/hWD-R+++T(T)DM+
My Battle Reports: Orks against: Tau , Tau , Tau |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 16:00:10
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
Right behind you. No, really.
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well aren't you at 1505? just drop one BP to get down to 1500.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 19:28:03
Subject: Help me build my 1500pt Ork army.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I wouldn't even say there is a point to dropping the bosspoles because that is only worth 15 points more and there is nothing that I would spend that on. Ill just say that the twin linked shoota on the Warboss is a regular shoota and and then I am 1500 even.
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