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SO I have played 40k in about 18 months....And I recently pick up a guard army for tournaments but because I love my Marines, I decided to make a fun Vulcan list and I am looking for some C&C

1850 Pts - Space Marines Roster

HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan (1#, 190 pts)
1 Forgefather Vulkan He'stan @ 190 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Artificer Armour; Digital Weapons; Kesare's Mantle; Bolt Pistol; Gauntlet of the Forge; Spear of Vulkan; And They Shall Know No Fear; Chapter Tactics; Combat Tactics; Independent Character)
1 Kesare's Mantle

Elite: Terminator Assault Squad (7#, 515 pts)
5 Terminator Assault Squad @ 515 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield x5; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Land Raider Crusader)
1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
1 Land Raider Crusader (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 16 models; Access Points: 3; Frag Assault Launchers; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Extra Armor; Multi-Melta; 2x Hurricane Bolters; Twin Linked Assault Cannon; Assault Vehicle; Power of the Machine Spirit)

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 240 pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 240 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Meltagun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Combi-Meltagun x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
1 Rhino (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Access Points: 3; Fire Points: 1; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Extra Armor; Storm Bolter; Repair)

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 240 pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 240 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Meltagun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Combi-Meltagun x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
1 Rhino (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Access Points: 3; Fire Points: 1; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Extra Armor; Storm Bolter; Repair)

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 240 pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 240 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Meltagun; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Combi-Meltagun x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
1 Rhino (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 10 models; Access Points: 3; Fire Points: 1; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Extra Armor; Storm Bolter; Repair)

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 265 pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 265 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x7; Flamer; Multi-Melta; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Razorback)
1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Bolter; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics)
1 Razorback (Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank); Transport Capacity: 6 models; Access Points: 3; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Extra Armor; Lascannon and TL Plasmagun)

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Storm (1#, 65 pts)
1 Land Speeder Storm @ 65 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Open-topped); Unit Type: Vehicle (Skimmer, Fast); Transport Capacity: 5 models; Cerberus Launcher; Jamming Beacon; Multi-Melta; Deep Strike; Scouts)

Troops: Scout Squad (5#, 90 pts)
4 Scout Squad @ 90 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Bolt Pistol x4; Bolter x4; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Infiltrate; Move Through Cover; Scouts)
1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Melta Bombs; Bolter; Combi-Meltagun x1; And They Shall Know No Fear; Combat Squads; Combat Tactics; Infiltrate; Move Through Cover; Scouts)

Validation Report:
c-1. File Version: 1.09a For Bug Reports/www.ab40k.org; b-1. Roster Options: Special Characters; a-1. Scenario: Normal Mission; 1. Chapter: Codex Chapter
Roster satisfies all enforced validation rules

Total Roster Cost: 1845

I think it would be VERY helpful if you included the army name and points in your title! Anyways hmm while solid mech list I'm surprised you're fielding vulkan and no bikes/land speeders with meltas

I was considering it, but what would you take out?

It looks a hell of a lot like my list, which I do pretty well with. So I like it.

I have one less Tac Squad and a Dreadnought and an Ironclad in Drop Pods though, which are really handy sometimes. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Your list is very hard to read.

You don't need to write out every rule and every bit of wargear each squad has.
Only the bits that matter.

Eg Sergeant: Combi-Melta
Melta Gun
Missile launcher

and then the points for the whole squads

Yeah list is tough to understand. I'd don't like the bolter Scouts though. Should be assault scouts or there really is no point in the LSS. Drop that unit for landspeeders or attack bikes with melta or make it an assault unit with PF Sarge. With all the melta elsewhere in the list I'd be tempted by the heavy flamer and combi-flamer combo in it. That squad would then be able to charge and wipe out a 20 man Boys mob pretty easily, as well as most other small or non-assault infantry units (i.e. striking scorpions, devastator marines, tactical combat squads, 5 man CSM squads, Havocs, Guard blob squads without a commissar, Dark eldar warriors etc).

Flamers love cooking eldar.

Corennus wrote:Your list is very hard to read.

You don't need to write out every rule and every bit of wargear each squad has.
Only the bits that matter.

Eg Sergeant: Combi-Melta
Melta Gun
Missile launcher

and then the points for the whole squads

FlingitNow wrote:Yeah list is tough to understand.

I think he's using army builder or something.

I think he's using army builder or something.

Yeah twas my assumption too. Still makes it a pain to understand though...

typing it up is easier though.... sum1 PM him

HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan (1#, 190 pts)
1 Forgefather Vulkan He'stan @ 190 pts

Elite
: Terminator Assault Squad (7#, 515 pts)
7 Terminator Assault Squad @ 515 pts
Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield x7
1 Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi Melta

Troops
: Tactical Squad (11#, 240 pts)
9 Tactical Squad
Meltagun;
1 Sergeant Combi-Meltagun
1 Rhino (Unit Type: Vehicle ( Dozer Blade; Extra Armour

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 240 pts)
9 Tactical Squad
; Meltagun
1 Sergeant; Combi-Meltagun
1 Rhino Dozer Blade; Extra Armour

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 240 pts)
9 Tactical Squad Meltagun;
1 Sergeant (Unit Type: Combi-Meltagun
1 Rhino Dozer Blade; Extra Armor;

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 265 pts)
9 Tactical Squad
; Flamer; Multi-Melta;

1 Razorback ; Dozer Blade; Extra Armor; Lascannon and TL Plasmagun)

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Storm (1#, 65 pts)
1 Land Speeder Storm @ 65 pts; Multi-Melta;

Troops: Scout Squad (5#, 90 pts)
4 Scout Squad @ 90 pts
1 Sergeant; Melta Bombs. Combi-Meltagun x1;


Total Roster Cost: 1845


MUCH MORE READABLE

Thanks guys, I guess Army builder really does make a mess of things for 40k when you turn it into a text...Sorry about that, and thanks for all the help so far!

ok.

drop your razorback.

yea drop the RAzorback and the scout squad and fill out the lan speeder squadron. I would have all three be MM/HF land speeders.

OR

Drop Scout and rth Tactical Squad and extra armour on rhinos to give you:

Predator
Lascannon Turret
Lascannon Sponsons
165

Predator
Lascannon Turret
Lascannon Sponsons
165

Vindicator
115

OOOhh.. i like that suggestion even better...

Which means you suddenly have a lot of anti-tank LONG RANGE firepower AND a vindicator for anti-infantry.

Do not drop the Scouts in the storm.

Whether you get a first turn charge on a tank or Outflank them thwy are one of the better buys. Plus an Outflank, fast, scoring skimmer is a nice thing to have.

it's a nice thing to have monster...

but against having 3 tanks which can take out nearly anyhing together I think the scouts suck.

Corennus wrote:it's a nice thing to have monster...

but against having 3 tanks which can take out nearly anyhing together I think the scouts suck.

The scouts are what, 160 points? You aren't getting 3 tanks for that.

And coming in on turn 3 or four to grab an objective is worth more than another shooty tank, if you already have a bunch of that in your list.

he didn't

sorry monster.
even though you are an esteemed space marine veteran, I have to agree with the thunderhawk pilot. those tanks are anti everything. They have chemistry. With the scouts, he would have to drop a tank, which throws off everything.

Here's the thing, he could drop stuff to make room for tanks and whatnot I just think it should be a tactical squad.

He's already got three tactical squads going. he doesn't need another.

Corennus wrote:He's already got three tactical squads going. he doesn't need another.

I count four, and losing one of them could get you a few predators or some Drop Pod Dreads for some much needed long range AT, and still have 4-7 scoring units, one of which is fast and can Outflank.