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I was playing a game the other day where this came up.

I dont know what should be allowed

My fateweaver was in combat with a Lone Wolf at the start of my shooting phase. I used boon of mutation (shooting attack that is ok to use in combat) which killed the wolf leaving me out of combat with two more shooting attacks available.

Fateweaver has the We are Legion as well as relentless and Master of Sourcery rule allowing him to fire upto 3 weapons at 3 targets.

You have to state what you will be shooting at before you roll for any of the attacks and thats all fine.

My question is this.
Providing you declare what you'll be shooting at to begin with E.g. Boon of Mutation at the lone wolf in combat, Bolt of change at a Razorback and Breath of Chaos at some Grey hunters. Providing you kill the lone wolf with boon of mutation can you shoot the other targets?

I'd be inclined to say no just to keep it simple but what do you reckon?

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Very interesting one that.

I'd be tempted to say yes. There's nothing to stop you declaring multiple targets during your shooting phase - but at the time of firing, you then perform the acceptance checks, i.e., you can only shoot if you have LOS, or if you're not locked in combat.

That's just speculation though, but I think there's a case for it.

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obsidianaura wrote:I was playing a game the other day where this came up.

I dont know what should be allowed

My fateweaver was in combat with a Lone Wolf at the start of my shooting phase. I used boon of mutation (shooting attack that is ok to use in combat) which killed the wolf leaving me out of combat with two more shooting attacks available.

Fateweaver has the We are Legion as well as relentless and Master of Sourcery rule allowing him to fire upto 3 weapons at 3 targets.

You have to state what you will be shooting at before you roll for any of the attacks and thats all fine.

My question is this.
Providing you declare what you'll be shooting at to begin with E.g. Boon of Mutation at the lone wolf in combat, Bolt of change at a Razorback and Breath of Chaos at some Grey hunters. Providing you kill the lone wolf with boon of mutation can you shoot the other targets?

I'd be inclined to say no just to keep it simple but what do you reckon?
No, you cannot fire anything else.

All shooting/Gifts have to be declared at once. Since he could not use anything else at the time, you cannot now use other attacks.
liam0404 wrote:There's nothing to stop you declaring multiple targets during your shooting phase
Yes, there is. You cannot declare a target for something you are not permitted to use. You cannot even try and use a ranged attack if in Close Combat unless the rule says you can. BoM says you can, nothing else does. So what happens is you end up only being able to declare 1 ranged attack, even though you could use 3 if you were not in combat, and by the time BoM has resolved and transmoglified the enemy, it is too late to use your other weapons.

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At the time you declare the shooting attacks, are those eligible targets for Fateweaver? No, they're not, as he is locked in combat at the time he declares the shooting targets and cannot shoot or even declare targets without an exemption to the shooting rules. Boon is granted an exmption, the others are not. I'd say no.

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Fair enough. I just assumed that you'd do all your checks for each individual "weapon", i.e. you'd assess the legality of the attack before you tried to hit.

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All "shootign" from a single unit is simultaneous. Meaning you declare a target for each weapon simultaneously, check range etc. You never, for one unit, run through akl the steps of shooting for one weapon then move to the next.
   
 
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