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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 17:57:34
Subject: Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Been Around the Block
Tennessee
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HQ
Big Mek Kustom Force Field 85
Big Mek Kustom Force Field 85
Elites
5 Lootas 75
5 Lootas 75
Troops
Deffdread x4 ddcw, armour plates, grot riggers 105
30 shoota boyz 2 big shoota, 1 nob pk, bp 230
30 shoota boyz 2 big shoota, 1 nob pk, bp 230
30 shoota boyz 2 big shoota, 1 nob pk, bp 230
Heavy Support
3 Killa Kans Grotzookas 135
3 Killa Kans Grotzookas 135
3 Killa Kans Grotzookas 135
Fast Attack
3 Deffkoptas tl rokkits, 1 buzzsaw 160
3 Deffkoptas tl rokkits, 1 buzzsaw 160
3 Deffkoptas tl rokkits, 1 buzzsaw 160
2000
So ya I know a little overboard on the deffkoptas lol but i think it'll be fun. Adjusted the list to make it a perfect 2000  .
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/09/01 04:17:42
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 17:59:19
Subject: Re:Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Not gonna lie...I would be tempted to drop the Deff Dread and take more Lootas...
Kan Walls always suffer from lack of anything ranged so more Lootas never really hurt...
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"United States Marine Corps: When it absolutely and positively has to be destroyed overnight"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 18:17:41
Subject: Re:Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Been Around the Block
Tennessee
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Unholy_Martyr wrote:Not gonna lie...I would be tempted to drop the Deff Dread and take more Lootas...
Kan Walls always suffer from lack of anything ranged so more Lootas never really hurt...
Very true but the dread looks awesome! lol  Sadly I don't have anymore lootas right now other wise I would take closer to 24.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 19:00:30
Subject: Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
Right behind you. No, really.
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yea. also you are a bit over 2000... is this just a casual game?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/31 19:10:32
Subject: Re:Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Been Around the Block
Tennessee
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Pretty much.... If they push the subject I'll just drop something real quick, but no its not a tournament or anything. Automatically Appended Next Post: Pretty much.... If they push the subject I'll just drop something real quick, but no its not a tournament or anything.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/08/31 19:21:37
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 03:43:13
Subject: Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Sinewy Scourge
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Drop 1 boy off each boyz squad, You'll be 1,999pts then. Automatically Appended Next Post: No wait. Drop the Bosspoles, as the mob is fearless until you've lost 20 boyz.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/09/01 03:43:52
Also littlenibbler Orks aren't about armour saves.
Orks are about having too many models on the table, and wasting the other guy's time with your movement phase.
Orks are about having the toughest units on the table.
Orks are about not caring about how many bodies are left in a long winding trail until the squad is down to less than a third its starting strength.
Orks are about rolling more dice then you can count without the aid of a calculator or a pen and paper.
Orks are about having totally fething insane characters tearing gak down like Doc Grotsnik, Ghazghkull or Snikrot.
Orks are about being too fething awesome to die...
Lets settle this in the arena http://pantsformer.mybrute.com |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 04:16:10
Subject: Re:Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Been Around the Block
Tennessee
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I've decided to drop 2 lootas thus making it a perfect 2000...when i calculated the list I forgot to calculate in bosspoles anyway so actually the list i posted is 2030 not 2015.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 04:19:29
Subject: Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Sinewy Scourge
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Don't drop the Lootas, drop the BPs and 3 boyz, Lootas are the wunderkind and two lootas are worth more than the BPs and 3 boyz.
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Also littlenibbler Orks aren't about armour saves.
Orks are about having too many models on the table, and wasting the other guy's time with your movement phase.
Orks are about having the toughest units on the table.
Orks are about not caring about how many bodies are left in a long winding trail until the squad is down to less than a third its starting strength.
Orks are about rolling more dice then you can count without the aid of a calculator or a pen and paper.
Orks are about having totally fething insane characters tearing gak down like Doc Grotsnik, Ghazghkull or Snikrot.
Orks are about being too fething awesome to die...
Lets settle this in the arena http://pantsformer.mybrute.com |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/01 04:29:33
Subject: Re:Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Been Around the Block
Tennessee
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hmmm I'll think about it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/02 04:22:16
Subject: Re:Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Been Around the Block
Tennessee
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So should I drop bp's and 3 shoota boyz or 2 lootas?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/02 04:26:44
Subject: Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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My list is very similar to this, Except i am running 3 Solo Koptas with buzzsaws, Spending the rest of the points left on filling out lootas.
I suggest only one unit of grotzookas, they are fun, but you need some anti tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/02 04:47:51
Subject: Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I believe most people have already suggested what I am about to, but if not, here goes a summary then:
Remove the Big Shootas, as your army will probably be hoofing it across the field and running most of the time.
All the Kans should have rokkits, as you already have Lootas to do lots of damage and shoota boyz for dakka.
Max out as many Lootas as you kan (hur hur).
Shrink the Deffkopta squadrons to 1 vehicle each. That should free up about 200 points.
With the spare points, add a minimal grot squad that comes out of reserves from the table edge to secure an objective for you. That way, your army can ignore tying up any part of a boyz squad for objective sitting.
At 2000 points, expect many armies to have answers for all those Kans. Find out what makes those armies work and adjust your list to compensate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/02 05:59:21
Subject: Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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WarOne wrote:
At 2000 points, expect many armies to have answers for all those Kans. Find out what makes those armies work and adjust your list to compensate.
I have found this to be very true. I love using my kans but on any battles over 1500 - there are just too many things that can pop them. 9 kans is overwhelming at 1000 pts, at 2k - not so much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/02 06:09:43
Subject: Ork Kan Wall 2000 pts.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Vrakk wrote: I have found this to be very true. I love using my kans but on any battles over 1500 - there are just too many things that can pop them. 9 kans is overwhelming at 1000 pts, at 2k - not so much. 9 Kans can be supplemental to what an Ork player may take. Now the problem is is that Kans are a significant investment- about 25 percent of a list AND takes up all the heavy slots. For the Kans to work, target saturation is key. Consider using Rokkit buggies instead of Deffkoptas as your fast attack slot permits. 9 more vehicles with the potential to pop transports is definately worth a look, and their cost would be similar to what rokkit kans would cost you. Taking a few nobs in Battlewagons is also possible as well. 2 Five man squads of Nobs with some extra things gives you two extra targets at a reasonable cost (each unit with BW should cost about 300 each). Supplement with a few Trukk boyz and use the Kans as a replacement/reinforcement for the Lootas. Play around with the list after a few matches and see what doors open opportunity wise for your army to develop.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/09/02 06:09:58
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