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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/04 19:58:10
Subject: IG Combined Arms 1500 point list
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Guardsman with Flashlight
Cadia
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Ok, here's a 1500 point list I was thinking of. I'm still building it, so feel to offer advice. NOTE: I do not have access to army builderor my IG codex at the time of this writing. I have memorized the point values for the most part, but if I'm wrong tell me.
HQ: CCS
+vox caster
+Company Standard
+plasma gun
+melta gun
=90 points
Troops: (Infantry Platoon)
=490 points
PCS
+vox caster
=35 points
Infantry Squad
+vox caster
=55 points
Infantry Squad
+vox caster
=55 points
Infantry Squad
+vox caster
=55 points
HWS
+3 lascannons
=105 points
HWS
+3 lascannons
=105 points
Troops: Veteran Squad
+Power sword
+Plasma gun
+Melta gun
+Sniper rifle
+Grenadiers Doctrine (carapace armor)
=140 points
Troops: Veteran Squad
+Power sword
+Plasma gun
+Melta gun
+Sniper rifle
+Grenadiers Doctrine (carapace armor)
=140 points
Fast Attack: Valkyrie
=100 points
Fast Attack: Valkyrie
=100 points
Heavy Support: Leman Russ Vanquisher
+Lascannon
+Heavy Bolter sponsons
=190 points
Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battle Tank
+Lascannon
=165 points
Heavy Support: Leman Russ Battle Tank
+Lascannon
=165 points
Total =1500 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/04 20:18:28
Subject: IG Combined Arms 1500 point list
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Lord of the Fleet
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I think you mixed up combine arms with shove everything in without thinking about how each weapon affects each other.
CCS should have all the same weapons. I vote for Plasma Guns then replace your standard with a medic.
Infantry is TOO BARE. They need other weapons besides their peashooters. Only give one vox and give a squad a commissar. add in extra weapons and then blob them together. Other wise they'll be nigh useless
Ooh boy these vets look more confused than chickens before slaughter. Drop the power weapons, wont do them any good. mixing in all those guns will accomplish nothing. Sniper likes to be far, Plasma is mid, Melta is close. Having all 3 doesnt cover their weaknesses, it makes them all feel useless (sniper and plasma will do nothing to heavy armor, melta is the only assault weapon, sniper will force your men to sit on their not very necessary carapace covered bums). Either go all melta or plasma for them. snipers really are ok with them but ratlings are a better choice since they all get rifles.
The Valks should always attempt to get rocket pods. they are just too good.
Drop the vanquisher. BS3 for it makes it too unreliable and the sponsons on it are wasting anyways. Swap him out for some hydras or a manticore or other artillery
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/04 23:25:39
Subject: IG Combined Arms 1500 point list
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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three problems:
1.) your infantry has no killing power, and no morale. I'd say that you're going to waste them once they start running, but as they are worthless to begin with, it's not going to be much of a loss. Oh, except for that it is a 200 point black hole in your list...
2.) your air cav section is a mess. The vets are very poorly armed, with expensive doctrines, and a mix of weapons (some of them are of very poor quality, like sniper rifles).
3.) you don't have enough points to arm a vet-vendetta+infantry horde+armored list right. As such, you are doing all three of those things poorly, being forced to spend a lot of points of overhead with none left for weapons. I'd highly recommend you axe one of these three themes to bolster the other two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/05 06:55:23
Subject: Re:IG Combined Arms 1500 point list
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Sickening Carrion
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Your basic troops are just......yeah. I don't have the vocabulary to describe it. As a fellow IG player, my preference is to just take Veterans with heavy weapons in the squads to take advantage of that BS 4, then I field as many templates as possible.
For instance, i played a 2v2 today, IG and Dark Eldar vs CSM and Eldar (yeah, the match up makes no sense, but the DE player needed a team mate, and I just wanted to fight chaos), it was 4k pts, 1k pts each.
My list was as follows:
HQ (the last 3 upgrades were because i needed to waste 45 pts):
CCS
-Plasma Pistol & Power Sword
-Meltagun
-Medic
-Vox
-Regimental Standard
-Krak Grenades
-Carapace armor
-Camo Cloaks
Troops:
Veteran Squad
-Forward Sentries
-Vox
-Heavy Bolter
Veteran Squad
-Forward Sentries
-Vox
-Missle Launcher
Penal Legion
Fast Attack:
Bane Wolf
-Smoke Launchers
Armored Sentinel
-Missle Launcher
Heavy Support:
-Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Lascannon
-Heavy Bolter sponsons
Basalisk
-Heavy Flamer
Total: 1000 points
This list did a rediculous ammount of damage. The basalisk finished a unit of guardians with indirect fire and claimed 5 of 8 Noise marines, the basic russ killed a unit of Banshees, got 4 of 5 raptors, 2 possessed marines and wounded a chaos lord, the bane wolf killed a unit of dire avengers, killed an autarch via death or glory splatter, and melted 10 or so guardians. The sentinel, on its own, killed a wraith lord with krak missles, my HB squad killed a unit of possessed marines and held Lucius the Eternal in melee for 3 turns so my DE ally could finish him, my HQ assisted with the possessed marines, and the Missle Launcher squad killed some guardians, some dire avengers, a rhino, and immobilized a Vindi.
So there is my suggestion to you, as well as a compairison to a slightly smaller list and what the guard's armory is capable of in a battle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/05 11:04:04
Subject: Re:IG Combined Arms 1500 point list
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Mad Gyrocopter Pilot
Scotland
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Dont give your squads mixed special weapons. Generally it doesnt pay off ( different ranges and the like ). Especially with your veterans. Give them melta or plasma. Also squads without heavy weapon + special weapon are worthless. Voxes you dont need really. Drop them and at least give your platoon squads autocannons and special weapons. Also with vets carapace armour is meh. Give them a chimera to ride in. It will protect them a lot better and plus they can get to where they need to. With alot more firepower as well. maybe also drop a valk and try a devil dog with multimelta. For 135 points this thing is a great MC and armour hunter.
I agree with the sentiment that your list is all over the place. Your trying to do too much with the list and achieve none of it very well. Pick a strategy and stick with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/06 18:35:23
Subject: Re:IG Combined Arms 1500 point list
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Guardsman with Flashlight
Cadia
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Uh. . .  thanks for the advice. . .I will post a revised list soon.
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