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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/07 15:12:54
Subject: 1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
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Decided to build a Dark Eldar army, I really have no experience with them at all so any advice is welcome.
Cheers
Archon - Shadow Field, Combat Drugs, Agoniser, Splinter Pistol
4 Incubi
Raider - Night Shield - 320
Raider Squad
10 Dark Eldar - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - Night Shield - 170
Raider Squad
10 Dark Eldar - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - Night Shield - 170
Raider Squad
10 Dark Eldar - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - Night Shield - 170
Raider Squad
10 Dark Eldar - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - Night Shield - 170
Total: 1000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/07 16:08:41
Subject: 1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Lethal Lhamean
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Greetings,
At 1000 points my first thought is that you could save yourself a nice pile of points by dropping the Archon to a Dracon - same relative killing power for half the base price.
You're also only fielding 5 Dark Lances (4 when you consider the Incubi Raider will probably want to turbo boost). Depending how many vehicles your opponents tend to field you can get away with this, but I would tend to advocate adding in a few more by switching out 1-2 splinter cannons. This will give you more long range kick.
Personally, I would probably drop all of the Night Shields (I think they're a touch too expensive at 1000 points) and also drop some of the Raider squads down to 6-7 men.
I'd use the extra points from this and the Dracon savings to buy up either another Raider squad, a Wych boat, or a Ravager depending on what I owned and if I wanted to be more gunline or more assaulty/short range.
If you don't want to drop the N.Shields you could still use saved points from the Dracon and drop some Warriors in order to buy a Ravager, or if you don't have a Ravager maybe a small squad of RJBs with 2x Blasters.
I think lack of Ravagers is hurting you the most - they're an excellent tool and well worth the investment in any DE list.
Your 2nd big hole is that you're paying 320 points (basically a 3rd of your army) in order to have a single assault unit protected by an AV10 transport...I don't recommend this.
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Thor665's Dark Eldar Tactica - A comprehensive guide to all things DE (Totally finished...till I update bits and pieces!)
Thor665's battle reports DE vs. assorted armies.
Splintermind: The Dark Eldar Podcast It's a podcast, about Dark Eldar.
Dashofpepper wrote:Thor665 is actually a Dark Eldar god, manifested into electronic bytes and presented here on dakkadakka to bring pain and destruction to all lesser races. Read his tactica, read his forums posts, and when he deigns to critique or advise you directly, bookmark it and pay attention. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/07 16:35:10
Subject: Re:1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
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Thank you for the input, I haven't really bought anything yet. Thats why i want to make a list so I get what I need. Would you maybe suggest dropping the incubi and using warriors instead?. I figured the blasters could be used from the open top as well as the dark lances seeing their stats are practically the same except for the range. I defiantly agree with the lack of Ravagers, and will most likely fill the hole with one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/07 16:55:41
Subject: Re:1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Lethal Lhamean
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Bleednomore wrote:Thank you for the input, I haven't really bought anything yet. Thats why i want to make a list so I get what I need. Would you maybe suggest dropping the incubi and using warriors instead?.
I would recommend not using a retinue at this point value. The value of the retinue is to buy a Raider when you have already used up your Elite and Troop slots buying Raiders (or if you really want Incubi). Put the DE Lord with Wyches or a Raider squad and have him leap out and assault something while the Wyches assault something else or the Warriors shoot at something. If you really want a retinue at 1000 points I'd advocate a mixed load of 2-3 Incubi and the needed number of warriors to fill out the rest of the unit. Equip the Warriors with Lances, S.Cannons, or nothing depending on your build (for gunline - lances, for gunboats - S.Cannons, for full on rush - no upgrades, they're meat shields0
Bleednomore wrote: I figured the blasters could be used from the open top as well as the dark lances seeing their stats are practically the same except for the range.
Range is an important stat and really changes how a weapon can be used.
You can never shoot anything (well...excepting scouts and infiltrators) first turn with Blasters) You can pretty much always shoot first turn with Lances.
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Thor665's Dark Eldar Tactica - A comprehensive guide to all things DE (Totally finished...till I update bits and pieces!)
Thor665's battle reports DE vs. assorted armies.
Splintermind: The Dark Eldar Podcast It's a podcast, about Dark Eldar.
Dashofpepper wrote:Thor665 is actually a Dark Eldar god, manifested into electronic bytes and presented here on dakkadakka to bring pain and destruction to all lesser races. Read his tactica, read his forums posts, and when he deigns to critique or advise you directly, bookmark it and pay attention. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/08 06:53:21
Subject: Re:1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
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Alright lets try this again....
Dracon - Combat Drugs, Agoniser, Shadow Field, Splinter Pistol - 106pts
Raider Squad
7 Warriors - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - 126pts
Raider Squad
7 Warriors - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - 126pts
Raider Squad
7 Warriors - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - 126pts
Raider Squad
7 Warriors - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - 126pts
Raider Squad
7 Warriors - Blaster, Splinter Cannon
Raider - 126pts
Ravager - 3 Dark Lances - 125
Ravager - 3 Dark Lances - 125
Total: 986
11 Dark Lances
5 Blasters
5 Splinter Cannons
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/08 08:00:41
Subject: 1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Executing Exarch
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Better, still I think you can drop all the warriors down to units of 5. Honestly what are they doing for you?
If you really want to be mean I would suggest running this list:
1 Naked Heamon
6 x five man raider squad with DL
3 x Ravager, Vect them all
Total firepower:
12 Dark lances
6 Plasma cannons
I have never lost a game with that list, and provided you play on a standard size board neither will you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/08 19:22:05
Subject: 1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Lethal Lhamean
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Clthomps wrote:Better, still I think you can drop all the warriors down to units of 5. Honestly what are they doing for you?
They're Gunboats - they provide splinter rifle rapid fire shots for thinning hordes.
I will say, Clthomp's list is good - just recognize it's a gunline list and decide if that's the sort of list you wish to run.
At least there are no Warp Beasts in it
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Thor665's Dark Eldar Tactica - A comprehensive guide to all things DE (Totally finished...till I update bits and pieces!)
Thor665's battle reports DE vs. assorted armies.
Splintermind: The Dark Eldar Podcast It's a podcast, about Dark Eldar.
Dashofpepper wrote:Thor665 is actually a Dark Eldar god, manifested into electronic bytes and presented here on dakkadakka to bring pain and destruction to all lesser races. Read his tactica, read his forums posts, and when he deigns to critique or advise you directly, bookmark it and pay attention. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/08 20:28:54
Subject: 1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Executing Exarch
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No room for the beast. If I could only scare up another 75 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/08 23:05:46
Subject: 1000 Point Dark Eldar Kabal
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Frightnening Fiend of Slaanesh
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That list seems a little pricey after the calculations it seems to be 60 points over...
Haemon 25
x6 Raiders/DL=630
x3 Ravagers Vect = 405
Total=1060?
nevermind I calculated the Ravagers wrong
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