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Now, I am not trying to change a rule, or propose a change at all. I am just curious to know how saving throws work in general. A little while ago I had played a game with someone that said I could not take an armor save, and a cover save and that I must choose one or the other. Is this true? This is how I have been playing for months now, but no where in the rule book can I find that you can only take one save.

Could somebody clarify this and perhaps tell me the page in the 5th edition rulebook? I'm just very curious, and I want to play the game correctly.

Post this over in You Make Da Call and some of the regulars there will give you the run down as well as the specific page number and possibly a direct quote from the BRB.

The idea is that you can only take an armor save or a cover save because the cover save ignores the AP value of the weapon. The cover save is supposed to be worse then your armor save but when that isn't the case simply keep your troops in cover.

"the model only gets to make one saving throw, but has the advantage of always using the best available save."

--BRB, page 24, 2nd column, bottom of the 1st paragraph

Hope that clears it up.

Personally, I do think that this rule of choosing only one save is kind of derpy. You should be able to take all of your possible saves, be they armour, cover, and/or invulnerable.

Only problem then is, say what if someone rolls up with a squad of Nob Bikers w/ Cybork? Normally that's a 4+(cover) 5+(Cybork invul) 4+(armor) then 4+(FNP) if they turboboost they get a 3+ cover first... Ridiculous...
EDIT; that's a .04125% chance of failure...

Play warhammer if you want to take 3 saves or more.

abaddon=gargamel wrote:Personally, I do think that this rule of choosing only one save is kind of derpy. You should be able to take all of your possible saves, be they armour, cover, and/or invulnerable.

Meh. Partly it's for streamlining, reduce the already excessive number of rolls needed for the game's most basic determine. Partly it's for balance, 2nd experience showed that it was very easy to build almost invulnerable characters by stacking save after save onto a character (WHFB has also limited it to one armour save and one ward save, because the same thing happened there). Partly it's to represent that troops in really bulky armour don't benefit as much from cover as light infantry, and encourage power armoured troops to actually hoof it across the field like they're supposed to.

The amendment of the single save from 2nd edition's multitude was a fairly astute design change. Pity extra saves have crept back in as "rolls" (aka "Feel No Pain"), but them's the breaks.