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Hi Guys,

I really like Space Wolves and want to make a very competitive list. I was going to make a razor back spam list but as people in my club all ready have that list I don’t want to copy them.
Has anyone got any ideas for an aggressive competitive spacewolve list? I was thinking thunder Wolfs but not sure if a gun line would just shoot them down?

Thunderwolves can be very competitive. Make sure to equip them all differently for wound allocation, I find that 1 fist and 3SS per squad is good, throw in a couple of meltabombs so they are all different. Iron wolves on TWM w/ 4 cyberwolves are a good bet. Watch out for railguns and vinides and other str10 nonsense, as they will make a mess of your wolves quick. Just make sure to bring long fangs with missile launchers to take down transports. Ill write up an example list later, too tired right now

Generally a good base list has somewhat of the following

Basic 1000 pts list (roughly)

Hq
Rune Priest

Troops
Grey Hunters Squad (8) x3
- Wolf Standard
- Mark of Wulfen
- PF
-Rhino

HS
Long Fangs Squad
-5 MLs

Elite
Wolf Guard (3)
-PF, Combi-Melta
(Generally 1 goes with each grey hunter squad)

Past that, you can either add another GH squad, as well as two more wolf guard. Preferably when you get to 5 wolf guard, one should be in termie armor and armed with a Cyclone Missile Launcher, which he will join your Long Fangs squad. And then I would follow Jabbdo's advice from there and add yourself some TWC for a bit of deathstar unit, they are fast killing machines!

Here is a 1500 point list that might work for you:

HQ - Wolf Lord w/Thunderwolf, Frost Axe, Runic Armor, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace = 230

HQ - Rune Priest w/Runic Weapon and Bolt Pistol (Jaws of the World Wolf, Living Lightning) = 100

TR - Grey Hunters - (5 man pack) w/Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Power Weapon, Melta Gun. Unit in a Razorback = 160

TR - Grey Hunters - (5 man pack) w/Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Power Weapon, Melta Gun. Unit in a Razorback = 160

TR - Grey Hunters - (5 man pack) w/Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Power Weapon, Melta Gun. Unit in a Razorback = 160

FA - Thunderwolf Cav (3 man) w/Storm Shields, 1 w/Thunderhammer, 1 w/Bolter. = 270

HVY - Long Fangs (5 man plus pack leader) 5 w/Missile Launchers = 140

HVY - Long Fangs (5 man plus pack leader) 5 w/Missile Launchers = 140

HVY - Long Fangs (5 man plus pack leader) 5 w/Missile Launchers = 140

Total = 1500 exactly


Basically stick the Wolf Lord with the Thunderwolf unit and the Rune Priest with one of the Long Fang packs or where you see fit. It has enough firepower and hth support to do a lot of damage to other armies.

Wolflord Patrick wrote:Here is a 1500 point list that might work for you:

HQ - Wolf Lord w/Thunderwolf, Frost Axe, Runic Armor, Storm Shield, Wolf Tooth Necklace = 230

HQ - Rune Priest w/Runic Weapon and Bolt Pistol (Jaws of the World Wolf, Living Lightning) = 100

TR - Grey Hunters - (5 man pack) w/Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Power Weapon, Melta Gun. Unit in a Razorback = 160

TR - Grey Hunters - (5 man pack) w/Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Power Weapon, Melta Gun. Unit in a Razorback = 160

TR - Grey Hunters - (5 man pack) w/Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Power Weapon, Melta Gun. Unit in a Razorback = 160

FA - Thunderwolf Cav (3 man) w/Storm Shields, 1 w/Thunderhammer, 1 w/Bolter. = 270

HVY - Long Fangs (5 man plus pack leader) 5 w/Missile Launchers = 140

HVY - Long Fangs (5 man plus pack leader) 5 w/Missile Launchers = 140

HVY - Long Fangs (5 man plus pack leader) 5 w/Missile Launchers = 140

Total = 1500 exactly


Basically stick the Wolf Lord with the Thunderwolf unit and the Rune Priest with one of the Long Fang packs or where you see fit. It has enough firepower and hth support to do a lot of damage to other armies.

I like that list, my only concern would be an IG with a bunch of Medusas, and the chance to crack the razorbacks open and leave the men stranded...

Learn to love long fangs- they're actually quite agressive! another thing to consider is some of the beefy-yet-expensive-characters. They are some goodness. Grey hunters = awesome, BC's = awful- unless in a squad of 15 with a rune priest.

Thunder wolves are tre good- love them too.

Vindicators FTW! They fit the theme of the army perfectly, and if you get them in range...

@Wolflord Patrick: I like your list. It fits the OP's requirements quite nicely. However, just a few things. The TWC are not legal as is. They cannot have a bolter and SS. Only one or the other. I would also, if possible, get a TH instead of the PF, simply for the little bonus effects they get at only 5 points extra. I also don't like PW and MotW in the GH's, only one of the other, to save points, but that's a flavor thing, i spose.

@Asgeirr Darkwolf: Show the BC's some love. They may not fit every scenario, but when used properly, they can be every bit as effective as GH's and then some. They just need a WG to get rid of that silly headstrong rule. And a Wolf Priest certainly couldn't hurt.

Thanks! I didn't see where I put a Powerfist in the list though. (I actually listed a Thunderhammer for the Thunderwolves.) As for the Grey Hunters, it really becomes personal preference on how you load those guys out. I actually thought about adding a Wolf Guard with a power fist to each unit for 38 points and just leaving the Grey Hunters with a melta gun. That would give you a 6-man unit instead of 5 and a bit stronger punch if you needed the fist.

Regardless, there are small changes you could make to it, but it would play rock-solid in a 1500 point game.

I will say this for BC's- they can be a devastating assault unit. In a unit of 15 wiht a wolf priest or wolf guard, especially in a crusader, they can be fantastic.

Don't do Razorback spam, I find MSUs too fragile and easily defeated in KP missions IMO. If you want something fun and different try Bloodclaws in a LRC with Wolf Priest and 1 WG with Powerfist or Frostblade. This is a seldom used, underestimated unit. Another fun list is to take

Wolf Lord w/ FB SS JP
Rune Priest w/ JP
Wolf Priest w/JP
Skyclaws w/ MG MotW PF

and run them behind a wall of 3 rhinos filled with Grey Hunters. The whole army sits under the Rune Priests 24in protection and the counter attack ability of the Skyclaw hammer unit will give other SW players, BA, SMs, and CSM players a reason to stay outside 12inches of the Rhino wall allowing you to dictate where the assaults will be fought. I used this plus some LFs and Wolf Scouts in a tournament in June where I took 1st overall. Check out the link in my signature for some articles on SW and 40k in general.

I would concur with the Skyclaws with a WG & WP.

Generally I would do the 1000 Pt army list I recommended above and add either of the following:

-More LFs (Can never have enough MLs)
-Skyclaws w/ WP
-TWC
-BC w/ WG & WP (Only issue here is if you add an LR it comes to roughly 650+ pts for one unit)

Generally I would do another squad of LF, with the TWC and maybe add a Vindi/Whirlwind if I had enough points left over.

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:I will say this for BC's- they can be a devastating assault unit. In a unit of 15 wiht a wolf priest or wolf guard, especially in a crusader, they can be fantastic.

I run that unit all the time myself and it's awesome. : )

Wolflord Patrick wrote:

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:I will say this for BC's- they can be a devastating assault unit. In a unit of 15 wiht a wolf priest or wolf guard, especially in a crusader, they can be fantastic.

I run that unit all the time myself and it's awesome. : )

Just wondering,
How many points does the roughyl equal out to?

MadMaverick76 wrote:I would concur with the Skyclaws with a WG & WP.

Generally I would do the 1000 Pt army list I recommended above and add either of the following:

-More LFs (Can never have enough MLs)
-Skyclaws w/ WG & WP
-TWC
-BC w/ WG & WP (Only issue here is if you add an LR it comes to roughly 650+ pts for one unit)

Generally I would do another squad of LF, with the TWC and maybe add a Vindi/Whirlwind if I had enough points left over.

WG can't attach to Skyclaws, it isn't an option listed for them in the Codex entry and as far as I know it has not been FAq'd or Errata'd.

Sky claws? Not a fan. In a counter attacking army likie the SW, it just doesn't work too well- plus, It's much more expensive than it's vanilla equivalent.

15 BC's in a crusader w/ a Wolf priest = 575 points, unupgraded. Not too bad, considering the devastation it can do. Long fangs and Vindis are always worth a second glance- just take vindi's in pairs.

OverwatchCNC wrote:

MadMaverick76 wrote:I would concur with the Skyclaws with a WG & WP.

Generally I would do the 1000 Pt army list I recommended above and add either of the following:

-More LFs (Can never have enough MLs)
-Skyclaws w/ WG & WP
-TWC
-BC w/ WG & WP (Only issue here is if you add an LR it comes to roughly 650+ pts for one unit)

Generally I would do another squad of LF, with the TWC and maybe add a Vindi/Whirlwind if I had enough points left over.

WG can't attach to Skyclaws, it isn't an option listed for them in the Codex entry and as far as I know it has not been FAq'd or Errata'd.

Sorry my mistake, it was a typo...

I actually eat up quite a few points with it and make it a death-star unit...

Generally speaking this is the unit I will run in a 2000 point list:

HQ - Wolf Lord w/Frost Blade, Runic Armor, Belt of Russ, Wolf Tooth Necklace = 180

HQ - Wolf Priest w/Crozius Arcanum & Rosarius = 100

TR - Blood Claws (13 man) w/Flamer & Power Fist = 220
*Pack led by a Wolf Guard w/Power Fist = 38

Land Raider Crusader w/Multi Melta and Ex Armor = 275

Total = 813 points, which is huge, but I absolutely love running that unit. Watching the reaction when my Wolf Lord gets 6 attacks on the charge with re-rolls from "Preferred Enemy" is awesome. Granted, for the size of this unit and the number of attacks it has I almost always try to assault multiple units with it if I can.

When that unit comes out and assaults, it deals with basically anything on the table and absolutely feels like I'm eating at the Space Wolf buffet. : )

In Apocalypse games, I'll trade out my 180 point Wolf Lord for Ragnar and that just takes it to a whole new level.

I have to admit my two favorite SW deathstar units are:
1. BC+WG+WP in LRC
2. Skyclaws +WL+WP+RP

I have tried several others including GH+WG+WP+Ragnar in LRC it was alright. Grimnar+WGT was a really fun one and only misses the top 2 by a bit. I am going to give TWC a try tomorrow in a tournament. I will be running WL on TWM Canis and 4 TWC. But for 1500 points I would steer clear of the super high point deathstar units like TWC and Grimnar+WGT.

OverwatchCNC wrote:I have to admit my two favorite SW deathstar units are:
1. BC+WG+WP in LRC
2. Skyclaws +WL+WP+RP

I have tried several others including GH+WG+WP+Ragnar in LRC it was alright. Grimnar+WGT was a really fun one and only misses the top 2 by a bit. I am going to give TWC a try tomorrow in a tournament. I will be running WL on TWM Canis and 4 TWC. But for 1500 points I would steer clear of the super high point deathstar units like TWC and Grimnar+WGT.

Eh...four TWC with an attached Lord is a little more expensive...until you drop the Wolf Priest.

I just don't see any reason to ever take Skyclaws in a semi-competitive list, as TWC are simply better.

Hey... We haven't heard anything from the OP in a while... you still alive, bud? How do you like what we've been saying?