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Hey guys, coupled with my mate who's playing blood ravens, and is going sternguard heavy. I've been told to take anti armour, so i've tried to play around with what i've got, even though i have to convert all these melta gunners!

So, to the point: -

HQ -

Lord Commisar (Joins Vet squad 1) -
Carapace
Melta Bombs
85 Pts.

Troops -

Vet Squad 1 -
2 x Plasma Gunner
Carapace
Chimera
185 Pts.

Vet Squad 2 -
3 x Melta Gunner
Bolt Pistol
Chimera
157 Pts.

Vet Squad 3 -
3 x Melta Gunner
Bolt Pistol
Chimera
157 Pts.

Heavy Support -

Leman Russ Battle Tank -
Hull lascannon
165 Pts.

TOTAL - 749

C&C needed! Thank you for any advice!

yeah that looks like a solid list. I think you will kick some but at the tournement. hopefully. good luck on converting those melta gunners!

I think you schould clear out some points to take side spnsons on that Leman russ. It will deffinatly help if you play agianst nids or orks.

my advice would be:

-Drop lord commissar (he won't do much)
-drop all bolt pistol
-drop the lascannon
- vet squad 1 change plasma to 3x melta. this will give you 1 less shot but you don't run the risk killing your own men.
And then you can drop the carpace.

This gives you 125 pts for your hq (or 135 pts if the carpace costs 30pts)

this will give you a command squad plus chimera and then 2 meltaguns (or 3 if the carpace cost's more)

This will give you another AV to run around, and more melta to pomp in your enemy.

Hope this helps

Sillyboy

Thank you for advice, my only problem with your advice is the more melta! I have just under a month to get my army repainted to my new standard, and this is why i kept the model count lower than i could think of. Looking at the command squad, it just seemed to be eating points for what i wanted it to do, and the lord commissar seemed like a more useful option, that would be more annoying to an enemy. I'm sure i am wrong though, so would anyone be able to provide insight to why he's not much of a viable option over the command squad? Thank you!

well, the commissar cant issue orders that is (or can he?)
while a command squad can issue 2, that would give the Comand Squad an edge over the Lord commissar.

he can't, the only reason to include a lord commissar is.... Well frankly i can't think of a reason beside fluff reasons.

And order are useless in mech list. because you can't give orders to a unit in a transport.

And a command squad eating points?
50 points and i can give it 4 melta's, it cost's 10 pts less than veterans with only 3 melta's, while having the same stats

Sillyboy

^
well, i don't know how to play mechanized IG. I normally play them footslogging. so.....

I've playtested Lord Commissar. Never. Take. Him.

Unless of course you run blob guard with straken within 12" and then you put him in a 50 man unit and charge those orks down.

100+ S4 I4 stubborn guardsmen who can re-roll failed morale checks? Hell yes! (plus how many lascannons, melta/plasma guns and power weapons?! Insane lovelyness. )

Otherwise just use as a normal commissar and grab a CCS.

Well the reasoning makes sense, thanks for all the replies. Looks like i'm converting another 4 melta guns -__- what a scary thought!

Other option is run x3 or 4 plasma in a command squad. Yeah they overheat, but attrition doesn't seem to catch up with you until turn 3 or 4, and by then they've normally done their job.

Also could take Primaris to save points, and beef up vet squads.

3x plasma, Straken and medic is the best CCS point-for-point IMO. It's probably how I'll run mine if I get round to buying it.

Got ~50 models to paint first.. meh.

I mean, if you have to keep the LC in due to modeling constraints, then fine, but, as said, dump him if you can.

With the LC, then the list should take out carapace and the bolt pistols for a third plasma gun for the vet squad and a couple of HK missiles or heavy stubbers or something (you can counts-as the pistols, and a single plasmagunner should break neither bank nor time limits).

On second though, if you dropped the pistols, carapace, lord commissar, and lascannon on the russ, you're only looking at 110 pts (after you give the vet the third plasma gun. This means a chimera and a CCS with all of 5 points to spend on upgrades. I suppose the extra chimera would be more useful than the LC, though.

I never really considered the primaris pysker... is he actually any good? havent seen him in lists. And thanks for the replies, tinkering around with ideas now, as i see the LC isn't popular at all.

oh, actually yeah. Take the psyker. He's basically a 70 point model that gets to shoot somewhere between 1 and 6 plasma guns a turn, depending on how great of a pain his mind bears.

Throw him in with your 3x plasmagun melta squad and have fun MC hunting.

That is a brilliant idea! The points saved on the primaris gives me enough points to add another plasma to the plasma squad bringing it up to 3. Thanks for all the feedback guys! Hopefully i will get to playtest this with my mate soon.