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My new idea, closely based on both assault and tactical marines.

110 points

Composition:
1 sergeant SRI
4 SRI

Sergeant SRI WS4 BS4 S4 T4 W1 I4 A2 Ld9 Sv3+
SRI WS4 BS4 S4 T4 W1 I4 A1 Ld8 Sv3+

Wargear:
Bolter
Bolt pistol
Frag and krak grenades
power armour
jump pack

Fast attack (?)
Same as tactical marines for rules

Options....
Up to 5 more SRI... 20 points.
two SRI may exchange their bolters for...
Flamer ... 5 pt
Meltagun .. 10 pt
Plasmagun ... 15 pt
The sergeant, has any option a tactical marine sergeant may use.

The idea: mixing assault marines effective movement with tactical marines effective ranged tactics allow for a 'light cavalry' effect, they can support a number of squads at time, and with down time fire as a tac squad, they can be employed against tanks, or to shore up weakening troop positions [such as those darstardly situations when your position-holding marines are about to be charged by nobs.] the idea is fast support, and therefore I feel it can fit as FA.

The playtest:
After conceiving this idea, I thought of simply allowing them to literally be a mix of assault marines and tactical marines. that is, be able to take CCW/BP or take bolter or special weapons.
I felt this would make heavy weapons difficult, and I felt it kind of ruined the idea if they have bolters.
after an actual playtest, the troops effectively held postions, and managed to screen an entire objective-holding squad from orks, meaning that the squad holding the objective could do so for another turn.

SO
Purposes:
To add fast-moving support to troop positions likely to be destroyed or fall back
To add fast moving anti-tank support.
To supply an effective, slightly cheaper screening unit.
Sucseeded:
Fast moving support was easy. they could jump in, bolster a squads firepower twofold, then move onto another area of combat.
Anti-tank. Failed in the face of bikers, not being able to turboboost meant that the troops could end up foot slogging for a long time.
Screen was excelent. great for holding a heavy assault squad at bay for a turn or two while your own troops get into position to blast their ubertroops away.

Captain Solon wrote:My new idea, closely based on both assault and tactical marines.

someone have been playing DOW2.....

hmm? DOW2, thaddeus with bolters is gak. this might work.

Captain Solon wrote:hmm? DOW2, thaddeus with bolters is gak. this might work.

Captain Solon wrote:My new idea, closely based on both assault and tactical marines.

You do know this is just a copy of an Assault Marines squad with bolters from the 4th Edition Space Marines...

OHMYGOD. THAT HAD THOSE?

Kind of think they should pack a different weapon, preferably one that would keep them 18" or 24" away from the enemy. Variant bolter?

So, an 18 inch assault weapon... you mean like... a shoota?

That's what I thought this was when I looked at the name of the Post.

Rocket Orks with Shootas...

No. You have Lands Speeders. You have Drop Pods. You have Assault Marines. I think you can deal with not mashing all of the above up into one unit.
Seriously, don't you have anything better to do with your time than to create half baked rules for things like this? Look at your lascannon thread, and your Heavy Bolter thread. And youR Plasma Cannon thread. Some of your stuff is just WAY Too far OtT. Especially your plasma cannon thread. (S10 AP1 Heavy 25...............) I think there are other races in this game that deserve new weapons, units, wargear, etc FAR more than marines. I only have the chaos codex ATM but i can tell you it is an ABOMINATION and it isnt even the wors one out there.

I seriously doubt that you playtested this.

They are very ineffective for their points.