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Question for those who have read Angel Exterminatus (spoiler alert!)

can the Eidolon model represent his particular look for the campaign in the eye of terror. I'm building a IW army with a small EC allies and would love to use his awesome model


thanks

Looking at the Techmarines, I think they accidentally put a 2 in front instead of a 1. I get that FW are a premium product but $44 CDN for a single, infantry sized model? As was pointed out, the Apothecary set is more realistically priced. I was hoping the Techmarines would be in line with that. Sigh....

So is the Sanguinary Guard style jump pack now the official jump pack of the HH?

 warboss wrote:
So is the Sanguinary Guard style jump pack now the official jump pack of the HH?

No...? It's the MkIV jump pack, there is a different version for MkII and MkIII.

 -Shrike- wrote:

 warboss wrote:
So is the Sanguinary Guard style jump pack now the official jump pack of the HH?

No...? It's the MkIV jump pack, there is a different version for MkII and MkIII.

Not for MkIII - it's too heavy to use a jump pack with. (But yes, that's a MkIV jump pack)

beast_gts wrote:

 -Shrike- wrote:

 warboss wrote:
So is the Sanguinary Guard style jump pack now the official jump pack of the HH?

No...? It's the MkIV jump pack, there is a different version for MkII and MkIII.

Not for MkIII - it's too heavy to use a jump pack with. (But yes, that's a MkIV jump pack)

I never noticed that before. Good catch.

Nocturnus wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 -Shrike- wrote:

 warboss wrote:
So is the Sanguinary Guard style jump pack now the official jump pack of the HH?

No...? It's the MkIV jump pack, there is a different version for MkII and MkIII.

Not for MkIII - it's too heavy to use a jump pack with. (But yes, that's a MkIV jump pack)

Here you go:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-CA/Legion-MKII-Assault-Squad

Oops. My bad, they have different versions for MkII and MkV, as well as MkIV. Here's the MkII squad:

And the MkV version:

It's so sad that they didn't made the old Raptor jumppacks for mk 5 for example. Imho they were the best looking ones and now we have two almost identical.

Eidolon is a fantastic model and represents him very well. My only gripe is the long flowing hair (or topknot on the helmet) right in front of the intake for the jump pack. Seems like a really bad idea to me.

Edit: Looking at it more, the cape and jump pack is also a bad idea.

 Alpharius wrote:
Ha!

Didn't that actually happen to poor ol' Eidolon in one of the HH books?

Yes. He's only useable for a short duration after Isstvan.

shade1313 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Ha!

Didn't that actually happen to poor ol' Eidolon in one of the HH books?

Yes. He's only useable for a short duration after Isstvan.

He is alive, I use that term loosely lol

 Formosa wrote:

shade1313 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Ha!

Didn't that actually happen to poor ol' Eidolon in one of the HH books?

Yes. He's only useable for a short duration after Isstvan.

He is alive, I use that term loosely lol

I really need to catch up on my reading.

Bits were parted, but that never stopped good old Fabius from pulling off stellar work.

 BrookM wrote:
Bits were parted, but that never stopped good old Fabius from pulling off stellar work.

and again i want to ask...what does Eidolon do exactly in Angels Exterminatus, how does he react, what's his demeanor ? I wish I could use his model for a post isstvan army of Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children, but since I only just finished Prospero Burns, I'm not sure he would fit

 RedFox wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Bits were parted, but that never stopped good old Fabius from pulling off stellar work.

and again i want to ask...what does Eidolon do exactly in Angels Exterminatus, how does he react, what's his demeanor ? I wish I could use his model for a post isstvan army of Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children, but since I only just finished Prospero Burns, I'm not sure he would fit

From what I remember, the incident itself happened in the short story Reflection Crack'd.

 -Shrike- wrote:

 warboss wrote:
So is the Sanguinary Guard style jump pack now the official jump pack of the HH?

No...? It's the MkIV jump pack, there is a different version for MkII and MkIII.

I am a big fan of the Mk II / V jump packs (the ones with the turbines at the top). I think they look so much cooler than modern day jump packs (Mk6/7 with rectangular vent facing forwward).

I am debating building all my assault marines with upper torso and jump pack from the MkV kit from FW. The only thing really holding me back is that I love the MKV legs in the FW kit, but I hate the poses of 3 of them (at least for assault squad), and I don't think the 5 posed miniatures look good together. At GBP34, I would like to get more than 5 jump packs

I have many old metal jump packs with the turbines, but the problem is, they are not nearly as good as the new resin ones :(

 BrookM wrote:

 RedFox wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Bits were parted, but that never stopped good old Fabius from pulling off stellar work.

and again i want to ask...what does Eidolon do exactly in Angels Exterminatus, how does he react, what's his demeanor ? I wish I could use his model for a post isstvan army of Iron Warriors and Emperor's Children, but since I only just finished Prospero Burns, I'm not sure he would fit

From what I remember, the incident itself happened in the short story Reflection Crack'd.

oh I see...I wish they would release some of their paperback only books in HC of bigger format...I hate reading small & cheap paperback

anyway, maybe you or anyone else that read Angels Exterminatus can still answer my questions

Eidolon is is alright, I am not an ES players so don't care beyond that. His bare head version looks much better than the helmeted on. The helmet looks like a a monkey face from the "Planet of the Apes".

The Techs I am interested in, but first of all, I have a beef with their cables running on the ground. It's kinda dumb since the sockets will get full of dirt and smashed and also it makes them look like the current GW Chaos dinabots that got loose from their owners. The second part is the helmet on the IV techmarime. He looks like a character from a kids cartoon, I can't pinpoint which but the vibe is definitely there. And since I don't like bare heads in general, the head options will have to go on both of them.

 Looky Likey wrote:
I'd put money on that being a big part of why GW has retreated from all forms of social media and forums. The signal to noise ratio is just too low to be useful.

The thing is, that's largely because there are so few opportunities for communication. Everyone piles on whenever they see an opening.

Having an established online presence would no doubt be messy at first, but would in the long term settle down and show customers that they're at least pretending to listen.




On-topic - This techmarines are fantastic. Not as keen on Eidelon, but that's possibly in part just because of the silly base.

A minor point in the grand scheme of things but all of FWs WHFB monsters have their descriptions set in the old world, picked up on mentions off the lost sea, lustria, naggaroth etc.

I mean seriously. If you are going to redo a website from the bottom up and rerelease (in a good way) older models, FFS, at least get your 6 month intern to write some sort of relevant fluff for AoS.

Or are FW going to fly the WHFB flag despite the parent

Sloppy is all I can really say.

Reflection Crack'd was (IMO) an awful pseudo snuff film starring a primarch.

Feel free to ignore it and just run 'ol Eidolon no matter consequences.

That and he "got better" anyway .

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Servo harnesses weren't around back then.

Shouldn't be too hard to rig one together using that model as a base though. The vents on the side look like they could be used as mounting points for the other arms.

Edit: First White Scars, now EC get bitchin' helmets. Why can't other legions try to be this awesome? Stupid Imperial Fists and their being dickish man-children.

Fixed!

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
Reflection Crack'd was (IMO) an awful pseudo snuff film starring a primarch.

Feel free to ignore it and just run 'ol Eidolon no matter consequences.

That and he "got better" anyway .

is Eidolon totally zombie like or does he still act as an astartes, how is he changed concretely ?

 RedFox wrote:

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
Reflection Crack'd was (IMO) an awful pseudo snuff film starring a primarch.

Feel free to ignore it and just run 'ol Eidolon no matter consequences.

That and he "got better" anyway .

is Eidolon totally zombie like or does he still act as an astartes, how is he changed concretely ?

He's a bit weird in that he's still getting used to being back alive so he moves about a bit jerkily at times in AE but he's properly alive again and not like a zombie past that from what I recall.

 Ratius wrote:
A minor point in the grand scheme of things but all of FWs WHFB monsters have their descriptions set in the old world, picked up on mentions off the lost sea, lustria, naggaroth etc.

I mean seriously. If you are going to redo a website from the bottom up and rerelease (in a good way) older models, FFS, at least get your 6 month intern to write some sort of relevant fluff for AoS.

Or are FW going to fly the WHFB flag despite the parent

Sloppy is all I can really say.

I'd love FW to do WFB in the Old World, but that would interfere with their moar mareenz strategy that is unfortunately infinitely more financially sustainable.

 Talys wrote:

 -Shrike- wrote:

 warboss wrote:
So is the Sanguinary Guard style jump pack now the official jump pack of the HH?

No...? It's the MkIV jump pack, there is a different version for MkII and MkIII.

I am a big fan of the Mk II / V jump packs (the ones with the turbines at the top). I think they look so much cooler than modern day jump packs (Mk6/7 with rectangular vent facing forwward).

I am debating building all my assault marines with upper torso and jump pack from the MkV kit from FW. The only thing really holding me back is that I love the MKV legs in the FW kit, but I hate the poses of 3 of them (at least for assault squad), and I don't think the 5 posed miniatures look good together. At GBP34, I would like to get more than 5 jump packs

I have many old metal jump packs with the turbines, but the problem is, they are not nearly as good as the new resin ones :(

Thanks for the reminders and clarifications. Ironically, I have a veteran vanguard squad for my blood angels with the old metal rogue trader turbofan packs and forgot they made a resin version of them for HH.

Since I haven't seen it posted yet... The new FW website DOES have the old downloads.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Downloads

Like the GW site, you have to scroll to the bottom of the home page. It's under "Here to help"

I'd love FW to do WFB in the Old World, but that would interfere with their moar mareenz strategy that is unfortunately infinitely more financially sustainable.

Thats kind of the point though

FW havent updated to Aos from either laziness or incompetency.

If they choose to supprt WHFB (absolutely unlikey as hell imho) then make the Monster section - WHFB Monsters et al.

They have not however.

So its sloppy/lazy or just gak web design. Premium kits + prices? Please - update your darn fluff.

/rant over

 Ratius wrote:

I'd love FW to do WFB in the Old World, but that would interfere with their moar mareenz strategy that is unfortunately infinitely more financially sustainable.

Thats kind of the point though

FW havent updated to Aos from either laziness or incompetency.

If they choose to supprt WHFB (absolutely unlikey as hell imho) then make the Monster section - WHFB Monsters et al.

They have not however.

So its sloppy/lazy or just gak web design. Premium kits + prices? Please - update your darn fluff.

/rant over

Keep in mind End Times: Glottkin was a rehash of FW's master plan for Tamhurkan, which GeeDubs forced them to scrap (allegedly).

It might be hesitance to do anything that might immediately be scrapped and rehashed by the main branch.

Keep in mind End Times: Glottkin was a rehash of FW's master plan for Tamhurkan, which GeeDubs forced them to scrap (allegedly).

It might be hesitance to do anything that might immediately be scrapped and rehashed by the main branch.

Accepted. However, the old world is dead. As in, dead. So why not fluff write-in a few lines for the old monsters.

Dread Saurian - still says he dwells in Lustria etc.

Lustria is not coming back