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35 big mek
-20 burna
-50 kff
-5 eavy armor
-10 cybork
---120 pts

60 Warboss
-40 mega-armor
-15 attack squig
-10 cybork body
---125


+=+ HQ +=+ 245 max

=+= Elites =+= 470

50 Painboy
-5 cybork
20 Nob
-15 Waaagh banner
-25 Power klaw
-5 'eavy armor
-5 cybork
20 Nob
-5 cybork
-5 eavy armor
20 Nob
-5 cybork
-5 boss pole
-5 shoota/skorcha kombi
-5 'eavy armor
20 Nob
-5 cybork
-5 eavy armor
20 Nob
-5 cybork
-5 'eavy armor
-5 shoota/skorcha
---260 pts

210 14 lootas


+=+ Elites +=+ 470


=+= Troops =+= 525

45 15 Gretchin
20 2 Runtherds
---65 pts

120 20 boyz
- shoota boyz
-10 2 big shootas
-10 nob
--25 power klaw
--5 bosspole
---170 pts

120 20 boyz
- shoota boyz
-10 2 big shootas
-10 nob
--25 power klaw
--5 bosspole
---170 pts

120 20 boyz
- shoota boyz
-10 2 big shootas
-10 nob
--25 power klaw
--5 bosspole
---170 pts

+=+ Troops +=+ 525


=+= Heavy Support =+= 225

60 3 big gunz
- kannon
-9 3 ammo runts
-6 2 additional crew
---75 pts

90 Battlewagon
-20 deff rolla
-5 1 big shoota
-5 red paint job
-10 armor plates
-5 grot riggers
---135 pts

+=+ Heavy Support +=+ 225

total 1500

Technically the Nobs are a troop because of the warboss. Also the Battlewagon is dedicated to the nobs. Ideally I would load the warboss into the battlewagon to start down the field, using the grots to provide cover for the boyz, blocking off as much as they can. The big mek I am not too sure about. I have been bringing him with my boyz, but would he be better off in the battlewagon? The kannons are to give me a bit more anti tank. I have been thinking of replacing them with 2 deff koptas with rokkits and Buzzsaws, but I can't seem to find the points. Any advice would be appreciated

Kynelius wrote:35 big mek
-20 burna
-50 kff
-5 eavy armor
-10 cybork
---120 pts

60 Warboss
-40 mega-armor
-15 attack squig
-10 cybork body
---125


+=+ HQ +=+ 245 max

=+= Elites =+= 470

50 Painboy
-5 cybork
20 Nob
-15 Waaagh banner
-25 Power klaw
-5 'eavy armor
-5 cybork
20 Nob
-5 cybork
-5 eavy armor
20 Nob
-5 cybork
-5 boss pole
-5 shoota/skorcha kombi
-5 'eavy armor
20 Nob
-5 cybork
-5 eavy armor
20 Nob
-5 cybork
-5 'eavy armor
-5 shoota/skorcha
---260 pts

210 14 lootas


+=+ Elites +=+ 470


=+= Troops =+= 525

45 15 Gretchin
20 2 Runtherds
---65 pts

120 20 boyz
- shoota boyz
-10 2 big shootas
-10 nob
--25 power klaw
--5 bosspole
---170 pts

120 20 boyz
- shoota boyz
-10 2 big shootas
-10 nob
--25 power klaw
--5 bosspole
---170 pts

120 20 boyz
- shoota boyz
-10 2 big shootas
-10 nob
--25 power klaw
--5 bosspole
---170 pts

+=+ Troops +=+ 525


=+= Heavy Support =+= 225

60 3 big gunz
- kannon
-9 3 ammo runts
-6 2 additional crew
---75 pts

90 Battlewagon
-20 deff rolla
-5 1 big shoota
-5 red paint job
-10 armor plates
-5 grot riggers
---135 pts

+=+ Heavy Support +=+ 225

total 1500

Technically the Nobs are a troop because of the warboss. Also the Battlewagon is dedicated to the nobs. Ideally I would load the warboss into the battlewagon to start down the field, using the grots to provide cover for the boyz, blocking off as much as they can. The big mek I am not too sure about. I have been bringing him with my boyz, but would he be better off in the battlewagon? The kannons are to give me a bit more anti tank. I have been thinking of replacing them with 2 deff koptas with rokkits and Buzzsaws, but I can't seem to find the points. Any advice would be appreciated

You might want to fix the way your list looks, as far as advice though, I'll post again later.

But for a reference here's a list I use similar to yours.

1500 Points. Waaagh! Da Gang Green Gang

Boss Dun' Goofed
Warboss (PK, shoota/skorcha kombi-weapon, attack squig, cybork body, 'eavy armor, BP) 125 points.

Mek Boss Slugstoppa
1 Ork Big Mek (PK, KFF, Cybork Body) 125 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Shoota Boyz (2x Big Shoota) w. Nob (PK, BP) 230 points.

5 Lootas 75 points.

5 Lootas 75 points.

1 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 70 points.

1 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 70 points.

1 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 70 points.

The_Savior wrote:

You might want to fix the way your list looks, as far as advice though, I'll post again later.

But for a reference here's a list I use similar to yours.

1500 Points. Waaagh! Da Gang Green Gang

Boss Dun' Goofed
Warboss (PK, shoota/skorcha kombi-weapon, attack squig, cybork body, 'eavy armor, BP) 125 points.

Mek Boss Slugstoppa
1 Ork Big Mek (PK, KFF, Cybork Body) 125 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Ork Boyz w. Nob (PK, BP) 220 points.

30 Shoota Boyz (2x Big Shoota) w. Nob (PK, BP) 230 points.

5 Lootas 75 points.

5 Lootas 75 points.

1 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 70 points.

1 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 70 points.

1 Deffkopta (Twin-linked rokkit launcha, Buzzsaw) 70 points.

Thanks for the post. Our lists are kind of similar, but yours seems to be a bit more specialized towards footslogging. Would I be better of skipping the nobs/battlewagon in order to bring more boyz and some deffkoptas? Also, how would a footslogging army of shoota boyz with big shootas and nob(PK, BP) work out? Less running but more dakka.


Edit: Just did a bit of adjustments, this list is more of a footslogging shoota list that uses meks and old zogwort. If I were to replace Zogwort(since he is terribad), I would just bolster my lootas a bit to adjust to the point difference.
Here is a more legible army list with these new adjustments

Old Zogwort 145

Big Mek[KFF, Burna, Eavy armor, Cybork] 120

8 lootas 120

7 lootas 105

30 shoota boyz[3 big shootas, nob, pk, bp] 235

20 shoota boyz[2 big shootas, nob, pk, bp] 170

20 shoota boyz[2 big shootas, nob, pk, bp] 170

10 gretchin[1 runtherds] 43

Deffdread[skorcha, CCW] 95

Deffkopta[TL Rokkits, Buzzsaw] 70

Deffkopta[TL Rokkits, Buzzsaw] 70

Killa Kan[KMB] 55

Killa Kan[KMB] 55

Killa Kan[Grotzooka] 45

I agree the list is hard to read. At a quick glance I would drop the 'eavy armour on the Nobs. Cybork with FNP is good enuff. I don't mess with Big Gunz but I hear good things about Lobbas.

You have a synergy problem. Your battlewagon will get into combat before the rest of your army. Your opponent will be able to deal with it with just about his entire army before they have to deal with the rest of your units.

General_Chaos wrote:I agree the list is hard to read. At a quick glance I would drop the 'eavy armour on the Nobs. Cybork with FNP is good enuff. I don't mess with Big Gunz but I hear good things about Lobbas.

You have a synergy problem. Your battlewagon will get into combat before the rest of your army. Your opponent will be able to deal with it with just about his entire army before they have to deal with the rest of your units.

Good point on the battlewagon getting stuck in too soon. I haven't really had a chance to play any REAL games with my orks, just some friendlies with my 2 friends who are still in the learning stages(as am I in all honesty). With the updated list, would that work better?

Battlewagons are great but when you only have one, it will end up taking all of the enemy anti-tank fire and even with the kff it won't last too long.

Is the warboss in the battlewagon with the Nobz? If not the Mega Armor has the potential to slow down whatever unit he is with.

DTrain wrote:Battlewagons are great but when you only have one, it will end up taking all of the enemy anti-tank fire and even with the kff it won't last too long.

Is the warboss in the battlewagon with the Nobz? If not the Mega Armor has the potential to slow down whatever unit he is with.

Yeah, that was the general idea. I don't have the actual mega armour warboss yet, so I haven't had a chance to playtest that particular list.

Funny thing about the lone Battle Wagon is that mine has my Nobz, but that's it, it's just a scary target, so when they see Kans, Boyz and a huge Wagon. Your opponent tends to ponder on what to shoot first.

Ideas and Adivce:

Use the KFF Big Mek heck even 2, cover saves are great 4+ to 5+.

Try to keep Kill Kans in a Squad, separate units means extra Kill Points. (Grot Zookas for infantry, Rokkit Launchas for Anti-Vehicle)
Note: I used KMB's because I am in a high point campaign ATM it's not recommended to use KMB's; however they've worked nicely.

Shoota Boyz in squads of 30 minus how ever many Big shootas you used and the Nob equal to about 52 shots with Boyz, 9 with Big Shootas, and 1 lone Nob slugga. They run, run, run some more, oh look you're in range Dakka dakka dakka!

Lootas are amazing, great for taking out skimmers, infantry, lightly armored vehicles, even a certain model if you get good rolls. Lots of shots = lots of wounds.

Koptas use these they work wonders, twin linked rokkits and a power klaw and they're scouts. Ask someone who knows a lot about scouts, ask him to explain a Kopta to you. You'll be please to know you have an Anti-Tank unit which gets up in your opponent's face.

Nobz I like them, however people gear them out differently, I'd suggest not overloading them however.

The_Savior wrote:

Shoota Boyz in squads of 30 minus how ever many Big shootas you used and the Nob equal to about 52 shots with Boyz, 9 with Big Shootas, and 1 lone Nob slugga. They run, run, run some more, oh look you're in range Dakka dakka dakka!

PRO-TIP : Give your Nob one of the Big Shootas

General_Chaos wrote:

The_Savior wrote:

Shoota Boyz in squads of 30 minus how ever many Big shootas you used and the Nob equal to about 52 shots with Boyz, 9 with Big Shootas, and 1 lone Nob slugga. They run, run, run some more, oh look you're in range Dakka dakka dakka!

PRO-TIP : Give your Nob one of the Big Shootas

The Nob in the Mob isn't allowed to bring it.

Only normal Nobs may.

Thanks for all the advice. I still need to get some games under my belt before I really get a feel for what you are all suggesting, but none the less thank you. Does anyone know where I can get shoota boyz on the cheap? The LGS I go to has used models, but they are all AoBR Slugga boyz and deffkoptas.

Kynelius wrote:Thanks for all the advice. I still need to get some games under my belt before I really get a feel for what you are all suggesting, but none the less thank you. Does anyone know where I can get shoota boyz on the cheap? The LGS I go to has used models, but they are all AoBR Slugga boyz and deffkoptas.

Most people aren't to caring about boyz being Shoota or Slugga, I mean, obviously it's annoying to assemble 100+ guys as either or.
If you say they're Shoota or Slugga most people are okay with this, I've played tournaments, and no one has gave me any problems with it.

However, try ebay, amazon, or a place that sells bits separately. Or check the Dakka Swap Shop on this site.

Hell I even have all my shoot boy arms and I bought like 11 boxes of boyz, I might even sell them to you.

The_Savior wrote:The Nob in the Mob isn't allowed to bring it.

Only normal Nobs may.

Read the options again

General_Chaos wrote:

The_Savior wrote:The Nob in the Mob isn't allowed to bring it.

Only normal Nobs may.

Read the options again

I wouldn't put it on the Nob though... seeing as you can; just read it differently.

If you can show me a model with the Big Shoota and PK go for it.

ITT: People implying they're pros.

The_Savior wrote:If you can show me a model with the Big Shoota and PK go for it.

ITT: People implying they're pros.

See a PRO-TIP is a tidbit of information that some new players don't know about, much like yourself, I like to help those newer players out

General_Chaos wrote:

The_Savior wrote:If you can show me a model with the Big Shoota and PK go for it.

ITT: People implying they're pros.

See a PRO-TIP is a tidbit of information that some new players don't know about, much like yourself, I like to help those newer players out

I simply don't use Big Shootas on Nobz scrub.

However, nice model.

I'd like to apologize, I don't mean to be an I just don't use Big Shootas on Nobs that's just me.