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I've got a question. I have a "counts as" Blood Angels army, and was wondering something. Is it possible to have an independent character joined by another independent character? Also, is it possible for an independent character with a jump pack to join a character without the jump pack so long as they aren't more than 2 inches apart, and don't move more than 6 inches? My actual example is that I was wondering if it were possible for a Sanquinary Priest with jump pack to join Mephiston?

1. An IC can join an IC.

2. Doesn't matter what equipment they have. They always move at the slowest rate.

and for your real question.

3. Mephiston is not an IC. No one can join him.

^ What he said.

All these rules are spelled out in the Independent Characters ruleset, on page 48.

And like he said, Mephiston is not an Independent Character. He cannot join or be joined by anything, ever.

I thought this was confusing at first as well, but both Hazard and Darkness are right.

I once had a Captain on a Bike join a Sternguard squad, along with a Librarian in Terminator armor. As long as you keep them in coherency together, they are joined as a single unit.

Follow up question, to build on the OP's (if you don't mind, Lord Astaroth), if I have a retinue that is bought as an upgrade (ie - a Techmarine with Servitors), can I have the Techmarine and Servitors join another squad?

I was under the impression "No", because I always considered the Techmarine and Servitors as their own squad. And since squads can't join with other squads, my gut told me "no", but then someone had recently used this in a list that I played against. This has confused me for awhile, and would like some clarification.

No. An IC with a retinue is no longer an IC, until the retinue is killed. Then the IC becomes an IC again. However, a unit of Servitors is not a retinue, it's a unit to which you may join the Techmarine if you wish. You can join any IC to a unit of Servitors, technically, but only the Techmarine allows them to act normally without taking a Ld test, IIRC.

The only exception to this rule is Tau Battlesuit Commanders with Drones. Drones don't count as a retinue - the Commander and Drones, even though they're a unit of three models, can still join other units like any other IC.

Ok, so if the Servitors are not a retinue, can the Techmarine join another squad, along with the Servitors? That part is still a little hazy for me.

Btw, you are correct that the Techmarine allows them to act normally without a Ld test.

Rurouni Benshin wrote:Ok, so if the Servitors are not a retinue, can the Techmarine join another squad, along with the Servitors? That part is still a little hazy for me. .

No. An IC can only join one unit. If he joins the Servitors (yes, they are a unit) then he cannot join another unit as well.

Mondo is correct. The Servitors are a seperate unit. The Techmarine, who is an IC, may join them. An IC may not join two units at once, unless it's another IC joining the same unit. So no, a Techmarine joined to a unit of Servitors may not then join another unit.

Okay, makes sense guys. Thanks!

SaintHazard wrote:^ What he said.

All these rules are spelled out in the Independent Characters ruleset, on page 48.

And like he said, Mephiston is not an Independent Character. He cannot join or be joined by anything, ever.

then this is 100% true.

DeathReaper wrote:

SaintHazard wrote:^ What he said.

All these rules are spelled out in the Independent Characters ruleset, on page 48.

And like he said, Mephiston is not an Independent Character. He cannot join or be joined by anything, ever.

not 100% true

Mephiston is not an Independent Character, he is a powerful one model unit in his own right, therefore IC's may join his one man unit.

Wrong! PG. 48. Independent character cannot join units that always consist of a single model, such as MC's or most Vehicles.

Nice edit there Deathreaper.

In any case, Mephy is always alone because of the rules on page 48. Simple!