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So I was sitting around thinking one day, and Im sure this has come up a zillion times before, but whats going on with all the traitor primarchs? The World Eaters primarch is the only one who seems to do anything, everyone else just seems to sit around on there given planet and be angry...

My theory: I think they might have some regrets about what they did. My reason for this is this: In one of the Ultramarines books when the Uriel gets tossed onto that deamon world, it mentions something along the lines of how the Iron Warriors primarch rages at the betrayal of his legion and the betrayals that followed.

I know thats little to go on, but its kinda got me thinking. Why does Logar sit in his big ol temple all day when he could be out burning 8 pointed stars on planets and killing? Why does the Death Guard primarch sit on his plague planet alone in his palace when he could be out giving the galaxy zombie fever? Why does Magnus sit in his tower all day (I know he tried coming over one time, but the SW stopped that and Magnus just gives up?) And why on Earth doesnt Fulgrim get out there and promote things that you see on the internet if you click that your over 18, expessially since hes possesed?

Just curious what everyones theories are, or maybe you all no the reason

i mean i think there is fluff reason about each one. i believe most are stuck in their own wars within the eye of terror. others are trying to think of ways to learn new info. Magnus comes to mind. the black library is something they are looking for

I think Ahraman or however you spell it is the one looking for the black library, but Ive been searching the web, and all it says about logar and his temple is he just went in there and left his inner council incharge of the Legion, and theres next to nothing about the other primarchs after the Heresy

Perturabo regrets it. The reason he turned is because of regret. He attacked his home planet because of political unrest and under rebellion so he blew it up. After he did that he was like Damn daddys not gunna forgive gues ill join my bro(whom if i may add he was jealous of because Perturable thought he should be warmaster). So i guess he just sits there being a sad panda all day as for the others they are just lazy.

Also let it be noted that it is Arhiman who wants to get access to the BL not Magnus.

They are all depressed... They realize what happened and are trying to come to terms with it. They all have some of the Emperor's genes, so they can't help it.

Angron is having the time of his life.

Another reason is that they are daemon primarchs, which means they large amounts of warp energy to go anywhere outside the eye of terror.

Weiss wrote:The World Eaters primarch is the only one who seems to do anything, everyone else just seems to sit around on there given planet and be angry...

All Angron does is sit around stewing in his own anger. Most of the others are dead IIRC.

Well, Fulgrim's a Daemon Prince ruling over some sort of Slaaneshi pleasure world that nobody can find.
Perturabo's an Undivided Daemon Prince who's probably building fortifications on top of fortifications on the Chaos fortress world he rules.
Konrad's dead.
Angron's angry. He's also responsible for the first attack on Armageddon and, I believe, led an attack into Imperial space for around two centuries way back in M38.
Mortarion's a Daemon Prince of Nurgle and is basically sitting around on a plague planet.
Magnus is also sitting around, but probably plotting something.
Horus is dead.
Lorgar's apparently meditating.
Alpharius is doing nothing. He's also responsible for every attack on the Imperium, ever. And all the ones still to come. He's also dead.

who says they're still even alive, sentient, and in control anymore? So much happens in the warp that we don't know about. There are lots of possible reasons for them not showing up now that have to do with them being unable to.

phantommaster wrote:

Weiss wrote:The World Eaters primarch is the only one who seems to do anything, everyone else just seems to sit around on there given planet and be angry...

All Angron does is sit around stewing in his own anger. Most of the others are dead IIRC.

He attacked in and was an orchestrator for the First War for Armageddon. Of course, the Imperium kicked his ass....

Seaward wrote:Well, Fulgrim's a Daemon Prince ruling over some sort of Slaaneshi pleasure world that nobody can find.
Perturabo's an Undivided Daemon Prince who's probably building fortifications on top of fortifications on the Chaos fortress world he rules.
Konrad's dead.
Angron's angry. He's also responsible for the first attack on Armageddon and, I believe, led an attack into Imperial space for around two centuries way back in M38.
Mortarion's a Daemon Prince of Nurgle and is basically sitting around on a plague planet.
Magnus is also sitting around, but probably plotting something.
Horus is dead.
Lorgar's apparently meditating.
Alpharius is doing nothing. He's also responsible for every attack on the Imperium, ever. And all the ones still to come. He's also dead.

Fulgrim as it were doesn't exist anymoe. his body is inhabited by a daemon. The daemon prince is its own thing. For the most part tho they all just sit and do nothing they're just lazy. mind you if i had unlimited powah i'd be lazy too.

The more and more you try to understand the fluff behind the Primarchs, the more and more depressing it gets.

Easily the worst section of fluff in all of 40k. That and the motivations for the Chaos Primarchs to turn in the first place. I just pretend it doesn't exist because it's that poorly written.

The horus heresy was an attempt to make the motivations of primarchs going evil more understandable. Kind of what the new star wars episodes did with darth vader/anakin. This did not turn out so well either.

Well. Angron is banished FOREVER. As 100 grey knights kicked his entire daemon horde ass.

Not quite 'forever', actually.

Mr Nobody wrote:The horus heresy was an attempt to make the motivations of primarchs going evil more understandable. Kind of what the new star wars episodes did with darth vader/anakin. This did not turn out so well either.

I think the Heresy was a little more thought out than just an after thought to make their story line bit together better. If you look at the entirety of the fluff, it has a sort of religious feel to it. The "God - Emporer" who creates these Primarchs from his image and then One tunrs on him along with a few others and there is a battle and the evil is cast down - its basicly Genesis 40,000 years in the future.


Not that any of that has anything to do with what happened to the Primarchs - but I think they are so twisted mentally and physically by chaos that they just sit in their own Chaotic bliss

They are on extended unpaid leave.

Noisy_Marine wrote:They are on extended unpaid leave.

Agreed

With Horus dead, the Chaos Primarchs lack a leader to unite their divided warbands, and the Black Legion's leader Abaddon is neither a Primarch nor a Daemon Prince.

Abaddon's Black Crusades are demonstrations that the chaos legions need a strong leader to drive them towards a common goal.

Asherian Command wrote:Well. Angron is banished FOREVER. As 100 grey knights kicked his entire daemon horde ass.

The Grey Knights didnt kick his or there asre , and by forever did you mean 100 years?

Asherian Command wrote:Well. Angron is banished FOREVER. As 100 grey knights kicked his entire daemon horde ass.

Nope. He was only banished for a century or so, and it cost the lives of many Grey Knights.

Angron is probably one of the biggest threats to the Imperium when he's actually active. They guy managed to rally 50,000 Berzerkers during the attack on Armageddon. If he attacked in force along with Failbaddon and the other Primarchs, I reckon Cadia and Armageddon would be totally curbstomped.

ANY daemon primarch is a threat, Angron is too insane not to attack.

Necroman wrote:

phantommaster wrote:

Weiss wrote:The World Eaters primarch is the only one who seems to do anything, everyone else just seems to sit around on there given planet and be angry...

All Angron does is sit around stewing in his own anger. Most of the others are dead IIRC.

He attacked in and was an orchestrator for the First War for Armageddon. Of course, the Imperium kicked his ass....

Which is precisely why hes angry.

I read somewhere that Mortarion was content just to rule over his daemon world. He doesn't really care too much about the Imperium.

I imagine Angron is somewhere listening to Linkin Park and beating up his pillow. *coughteendaddyissueragecough*

What's sad with the Chaos Primarchs, is they used to have models, at least in Epic. They were gigantic (about half the size of a Warhound. But they GW built the fluff about their power up and up, and it's now ridiculous to even consider using one in any system.

fulgrim is alive if you read the book fulgrim at the end he is trapped in a painting of himself aboard the flight of the emporer


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fulgrim is alive if you read the book fulgrim at the end he is trapped in a painting of himself aboard the flight of the emporer

Warprat wrote:They are all depressed... They realize what happened and are trying to come to terms with it. They all have some of the Emperor's genes, so they can't help it.

damn! the cabal was right!