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H:lvl2 Skink Priest;Diadem,Dispel Scroll (150)
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:11 Skink Skirmishers-77
S:7 Cold One Riders- Musician, Standard Bearer-275
Total-994

What do you think?

T4 with a 2+ and a 6++ in addition should be hard to crack. Especially seeing the two people i play against on a regular basis both play elves.

Are temple Guard worth taking without a slann?

Where should i try to deploy my priest? Should i put him with a unit?

To get to higher point levels i am thinking of

Ancient Stegadon?

Slaan?

OldBlood?

Scar Veteran

Gor Rok?

Salamanders?

Obviously more saurus and skinks.

What do you think of these suggestions I would like to expand to 1500 points. Any advice on what i should add would be great








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you can't take both the diadem and the scroll. and at 1k a scar vet is a better investment IMO.

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Why not?

they are both 25 points right? And the priest can take 50 points worth

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You can only have one of each item type. I suspect, but am not certain, that the diadem is an arcane item. I know the scroll is.

Those rules are in the BRB section detailing magic items and their restrictions.

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Damn i didnt have the 8th BRB with me

well how about this?
H:1 Saurus Scar Veteran-Cold One, Shield, Light Armour, Statuette of Spite-138
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:12 Skink Skirmishers-84
S:7 Cold One Riders- Musician, Standard Bearer-275
Total-993

Do you think this guy will do better?

I dont have the extra skink model to make the last seven points.

I took The Statuette because i think it will be hilariously annoying to elf characters.


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You'r army smells of battalion boxes

On a more serious note, for 1k i go for a cheapo oldblood and two priests, with the rest thrown into saurus blocks and skinkmishers. Its a CC army with magic support.

You'r army on the other hand, the second list anyway, has CC with mobile support, the statuette of spite is sorta meh since most chars have high toughness, might wanna drop it and get a ward save, armour of fortune or gambler's armour maybe (common items in the BRB) also both of these are heavy armors so with the cold one his save goes up to 1+ no need of a shield

Edit: Actually by dropping the satuette and the shield plus the points you already have left over, you get the exact points to throw the armour of fortune on him.
Go 1+/5++ save

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well how about this?
H:1 Saurus Scar Veteran-Cold One, Light Armour, Armour of Fortune-145
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:12 Skink Skirmishers-84
S:7 Cold One Riders- Musician, Standard Bearer-275
Total-1000

How about this?

And if i dropped the command and 2 cold ones from the riders i could take a priest

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Bulgaria

No need for light armour, he has 5+ scaly -2 heavy armour (of fortune) -2 for ridin a cold one =1+. Those five points can net you an ironcurse icon or some other cheap-o item.
IDK if you reealy need a priest at 1k, what gear have you planned for him?

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If you're using a magic armour doesnt that replace your mundane armor anyway? For the ones that specify an armor type that is.

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How about this for 1500
H:lvl2 Skink Priest-100
H:1 Saurus Scar Veteran-Cold One, Armour of Fortune-140
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:12 Skink Skirmishers-84
C:Jungle Swarm-45
S:10 Temple Guard-Full Command-195
S:7 Cold One Riders- Musician, Standard Bearer-275
R:Salamander+4xHandlers-80
R:Salamander+4xHandlers-80
Total-1495

The Jungle Swarm Was to fill points and because i think it might be fun to make a unit waste a turn of shooting at it. And it also has the potential to take down a cannon crew or bolt thrower crew.

And what do you think of Stegadons? is ancient better? should you only use them as mounts?

And whats the best way to deal with repeater bolt throwers?

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Get the scar vet either a halberd, an extra hand weapon or the ironcurse icon, first two just make him a bit killier, the other one can give some minor warmachine protection to the rest of the cold one riders.

As for stegs it's really a matter of numbers, you either run at least two or none, a single stegs is too much of a fire magnet to last for long on his own. Taking them as either ancient or normal and either of those as mounts they work the same way – a support unit to add kills to an already engaged combat, and/or flankers, getting a combo charge with two stegs on a single unit is pretty hillarios (for you not the opponent ) if you manage to pull it off. Lizardmen have a very large selection of slots to bring monsters on the field with – lords, heroes, special and rare can all hold monsters making the army still able to monster spam even with 8th's new army selection rules.

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You can't use the extra hand weapon on a cold one. I'd seriously consider a skink priest.

A level 2 with the diadem/plaque could really do nicely. Fair enough heavens is... situational. But some of it's spells are pretty good. 1,3,4,6 are all good (not great, but good). Comet is either amazing or terrible. Lets not talk about Wind Blast. The signature spell is good against some armies, devastating against others, and useless against the rest.

And considering you already get your 2D6 power dice it means you could use them for more than removing bound spells.

+1 for the priest. And at 1500, give him an engine :3

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Ooops goofed on the AHW.
He already has a priest, not sure if he can strip points for some arcane gear on him, maybe just drop the swarm and get some gear and more bodies.


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Expanding to 2000
H:lvl2 Skink Priest-100
H:1 Saurus Scar Veteran-Cold One, Armour of Fortune, IronCurse Icon, Hand Weapon-149
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:18 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (246)
C:16 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (222)
C:12 Skink Skirmishers-84
C:Jungle Swarm-45
S:10 Temple Guard-Full Command-195
S:7 Cold One Riders- Musician, Standard Bearer-275
R:Salamander+4xHandlers-80
R:Salamander+4xHandlers-80
Total-1726

What should i add in for the last 274 points?

And what do you think of kroq gar? he seems overpriced but can he do much damage?

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Bulgaria

And arch was right on the no additional hand weapon for mounted guys thing, just take a halberd and enjoy the higher streinght since nothing restricts riders from having two handed weapons.

As for Kroq-gar, sadly all lizzardmen special chars are overpriced, for the points he costs you can get an oldblood with carny and matching to better gear.

Also expanding to 2k means that you're gonna have to get a lord of some sort and a BSB as well, going without these things is no big deal in low point games but once you hit 2k you're practically playing a big game. Also those saurus block are too small for 2k merge them in two larger blocks rather than 3 small ones.

I would suggest taking an oldblood on a cold one as the lord, and turning the scar vet into a BSB on foot (keep the armour and get him a shield to make him 2+/5++).

Then the oldblood can do what your scar did in the smaller lists – join the Cold one cav, and the newly appointed BSB is gonna hang out in one of the saurus blocks. Also get that priest a dispel scroll, at 2k relying on a lvl 2 for all you'r dispelling is just not enough at times.

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H:lvl2 Skink Priest-100
H:1 Saurus Old Blood-Cold One, Armour of Destiny, IronCurse Icon, Sword of striking, Dawn Stone, Shield -266
H:1 Saurus Scar Veteran-Light Armour, BSB, Shield-118
C:26 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (342)
C:26 Saurus Warriors; Spears, Full Command (342)
C:13 Skink Skirmishers-91
C:14 Skink Skirmishers-98
S:10 Temple Guard-Full Command-195
S:7 Cold One Riders- Musician, Standard Bearer-275
R:Salamander+4xHandlers-80
R:Salamander+4xHandlers-80
Total-1997

The oldblood should be nigh impossible to bring down with anything but a cannon or a character worth twice his points.

What do you think?

And where should i aim to put my priest? Should i put him in a unit?

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If the vet (5+ scaly skin) didn't need a shield to get 1+ armour, the oldblood (4+ scaly) needs it even less. the priest is best kept in skirmisher units he gets both a meatshield and -1 to shoot at, not to mention the skirmisher formation means less models get hit if he miscasts.


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its only ten points and it means against bolt throwers i get a rerollable 3+ and a four plus.

And have you ever tried the blade of reality? does it work well?

And the dawnstone stone seems ridiculously good for only 25 points.

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