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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/25 16:21:08
Subject: Mechanized IG - 2500pts
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Lord of the Fleet
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I'm looking for feedback on the list I currently run. I would like to know how terribly it stacks up on the competitive scene, and what I should be swapping out.
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Company Command Squad - 4x Meltagun, Chimera/145pts
Troops
Veteran Squad - 3x Meltagun, Chimera/155pts
Veteran Squad - 3x Meltagun, Chimera/155pts
Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma Gun, Chimera/170pts
Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma Gun, Chimera/170pts
Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma Gun, Chimera/170pts
Heavy Support
Leman Russ Battle Tank Squadron (3) - /450pts
Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron (3) - /495pts
Leman Russ Executioner Squadron (3) - /570pts
I really like tanks. A lot. I was wondering if I should cut down the squadrons to two tanks each, or even one each to make room for hellhound variants (not the banewolf) or possibly artillery. I hear air cav is solid, but I'm just not a fan of the valk model. Also, I have 20pts to spare, what should I upgrade? Drop a melta gun in the CCS and add an advisor?
I've had a lot of fun with this list, and it performs admirably against my local club, but obviously runs into difficulty as well. Any critique/feedback is welcomed, be harsh!
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Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress
+Spaceship Gaming Enthusiast+
Live near Halifax, NS? Ask me about our group, the Ordo Haligonias! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/25 18:21:12
Subject: Mechanized IG - 2500pts
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Wicked Warp Spider
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First of all, a disclaimer - the squadron rules are actually very punishing for heavy tanks, so this is not really a completely tuned list. That said, guard with lots of vehicles are so nasty that it won't make a huge difference unless you play exclusively against other hyper-competitive lists. A lot of your tactics will have to revolve around protecting your russ squadrons from units with 3+ meltaguns, which can whip them off the board double quick.
You should seriously cut the squadrons down to 2 tanks each. 3 is just too inflexible. Use the points to buy hellhound-type tanks. I think a hellhound w/hull multimelta is the best type. Similar tank-killing capacity to a devil dog, better anti-troop. You could consider a 6th veteran squad as well.
I am not a fan of executioners, especially as you've taken them. Consider - 190 points, you could get a LRBT with plasma sponsons (or an exterminator w/plasma sponsons, which I've heard spoken well of as a transport and infantry killer) instead. Those choices are a lot less vulnerable to weapon destroyed results and can do far more damage against their prime targets.
The more I think of it, I would actually advocate taking 2 exterminators w/plasma in place of the current executioner squadron. Your list currently lacks anything to kill armour at range - and almost every smart player these days fields a load of AV10-12 vehicles.
Just to reiterate, squadrons of 3 russes are just a huge loss in flexibility, and if a unit shooting at you gets lucky, instead of one tank unable to do anything next turn, it can be 3 tanks. Not to mention the already harsh immobilised=destroyed rule.
Summary: cut a russ from each squadron, changing the remaining executioners to exterminators w/plasma sponsons. (-505 points) Add 2 hellhound w/multimeltas and 1 unit of veterans w/meltaguns in a chimera (445). That gives you 60 spare points or so, go nuts. I dunno, buy some demolitions upgrades or cut something and take a psyker HQ, whatever.
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Eldar Corsairs: 4000 pts
Imperial Guard: 4000 pts
Corregidor 700 pts
Acontecimento 400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/25 18:49:03
Subject: Mechanized IG - 2500pts
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Lord of the Fleet
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I would get more meltaguns than plasma. With a bunch of LM already taken, anti MEQ weapons should be plentiful while anti tank weapons area bit lacking
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/09/25 20:25:32
Subject: Re:Mechanized IG - 2500pts
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Lord of the Fleet
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Based off the feedback above, here's what I think I'll try soon.
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Company Command Squad - 4x Meltagun, Chimera/145pts
Troops
Veteran Squad - 3x Meltagun, Demolitions, Chimera/185pts
Veteran Squad - 3x Meltagun, Demolitions, Chimera/185pts
Veteran Squad - 3x Meltagun, Demolitions, Chimera/185pts
Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma Gun, Chimera/170pts
Veteran Squad - 3x Plasma Gun, Chimera/170pts
Fast Attack
Hellhound - Multi-melta/145pts
Hellhound - Multi-melta/145pts
Hellhound - Multi-melta/145pts
Heavy Support
Leman Russ Battle Tank Squadron (2) - /300pts
Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron (2) - /330pts
Leman Russ Exterminator Squadron (2) - Plasma Cannon Sponsons/380pts
Dropped a tank from each squadron, replaced executioners with exterminators w/plasma, added three hellhounds w/MM, and switched a plasma squad for a melta squad. All the melta squads are also demolitions now too. Still looks the way I like my Guard to look, with some more variety for both mech and horde. I still have 15 pts kicking around, but I'll think of something. Thanks for the feedback!
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Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress
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Live near Halifax, NS? Ask me about our group, the Ordo Haligonias! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/04 12:04:52
Subject: Mechanized IG - 2500pts
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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looks better, 3 leman russes in a squad is maybe to overpowerd... i think 2 is already enough
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don't think, you have to know it if you want to be a commander 
2010-> IG losses:5, draws: 1, wins: a really lot of wins
2011 IG losses: 2, draws: 1 wins: 32
2012 losses: 8, draws: 0 wins: 15 |
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