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Vallejo, CA

Looking for a way to boost points in as little time as possible so that I can work toward clearing off the vehicles out of my list, I decided to scratchbuild up some ogryn. This seemed like a perfect project, as I only needed to scratchbuild 6 models in order to throw down 250 points. Plus, their large size hopefully would mean that the work is easier to do.

I decided that, having proven that I could do scratchbuilding at all with my past couple of projects, I wanted to kick it up a notch. Rather than focusing on making more detail, I decided to work up my speed. Once I have enough of that, hopefully I'll get the basic stuff done and still the patience to work on increasing levels of detail. As such, to help with the production, I've decided to do this ambitiously: two scratchbuilds at once.

The project began with me picking out a couple of 40mm bases and taking some measurements of regular guardsmen. I'm looking for someone who looks about twice as big, but is stockier, and more... well, ogre-ish. After a little time cutting out my base materials, I quickly had the frames set down.



I'm planning for the left one to be just a regular ogryn and the right side one being the Bone 'Ead.

It's at this point, that I should explain the plan for this. True to the unit itself, I'm going to be making big, meaty thugs. However, my angle on this is not to keep them thick and dumb brutes. Faced with the prospect of fielding such "mean, base, brutish and in all otherways unsoldierly in appearance" ogryn on the field, my SO, the illustrious Daxos P. Clinton III, has insisted that their level of appearance be brought up to an appropriately gentlemanly standard in order for him to be caught dead on the same side of the same battlefield. A quick trip to a tailor and after a work-over by the officer's on coiffeur staff officers (not to mention a crash course in proper grammar and decor), the end result are fighting brutes with sufficient class and presentableness to take the field with pride.

In short, I'm looking for big, dumb brutes, that have been made to look like regular imperial guardsmen.

I'd already decided that what I wanted for the ripper gun was one giant, break-open super-shotgun-hand-cannon-of-death, rather than an autoshotty. Of course, this leaves their other hand free. After much wrangling, and the helpful support of dakkaites, I decided that they were hitting the field pistols and sword style.

With all the planning, came the beginning of the scratchbuild, starting with the boots. After the frame/boots, they were left overnight to dry.

In the morning, I started with the base. This meant the pants and the sleeves. Working in this larger scale definitely felt different. It definitely felt like I could be sloppier and still correct it. As a result, the arms and legs on BOTH ogryn went pretty quickly.





Once this was done, it was time to finish off the base of the model (in just three stages! I am getting faster at this). This meant putting on the field blouse, and patching up a bunch of errors I had made (especially with the boots).





After this, I blobbed up some GS and threw the beginnings of the head on.

The next phase started the beginning of the detail work. This meant the front of the field blouse, complete with buttons, and most of the face.

After this was the second part of the detail. This meant finishing the face, adding in the belt and fabricating the base of the weapons and connecting them to the end of the arms.





Once again I'm impressed with how efficient I'm becoming with scratchbuilding. After just 4 steps I went from frames and boots to getting pretty close to being done. Of course, by now I'm starting to suffer burnout. Now employed, I have less time (this was started on the weekend), and progress over the week would be very slow. Furthermore, the nearly complete yet not complete models sitting on the desk was a little demoralizing. Also, the fine detail steps are by far the futziest.

Roughly 4 or 5 GS stages later, I did the hands and the hair. Also went on the belt pouch and canteen, and sash for the Bone 'ead. After extensive clean up, I finally got both of them done about 2.5 weeks after I'd started:





After all the effort, though, I'm pretty proud of the result. Some things not quite right, like the direction of the first ogryn's head, and the narrowness of the bone'ead's hips, but in all, this came out as something I'm going to be willing to paint.

Which was actually the easy part. All I had to do was to do them up in my regular guardsmen's colors, except I didn't have to bother with the brown. As for the sash, well, the only real option was the blue color of the scabbard holder of my SO/the color of the foleran flag.





A little hard to see the detail on the pictures, but you get the gist.

Needless to say, this all turned out rather well. A little more burnout (but, to be fair, I have a job now), for TWICE the number of models done.

Here's what they look like next to some of my other dudes:



And the poster...



Next it's finishing the rest of them. I'm thinking of being insanely ambitious and trying to do all 4 at once. I don't know how far I'll get in before I start working on just two at a time, but by gum, I'm going to try!

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Pretty damn cool! With some epilets on the shoulders they'd make great Praetorian Ogryns which of course makes me jealous of your sculpting abilities. Great work!
   
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NIIIIIGEL THOOOORRRNBERRAH HERE SUH!

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I thought this too EELIIZAAHH!

Awesome work mate! Can't wait to see the others

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Vallejo, CA

Thanks!

DarkTraveler777 wrote:With some epilets on the shoulders they'd make great Praetorian Ogryns

My original plan was going to see some small epaulettes (not with the big dangley things, but more the shoulder tabs to hold on insignia stuff). It turned out that they wound up being so hunched that they would wind up sticking in their ears, so I decided to drop it. That's when I came up with the idea for the sash.

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Helsinki, Finland

Great work, really awesome

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Aurora, Ontario

Nice work, that's some good green stuffing.

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cool what type of material did you use as the frame work for the ogryns.

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Great work man! Really didn't know what to expect when I saw the first pic but seeing the final result was very pleasant surprise.

commissar80 wrote:cool what type of material did you use as the frame work for the ogryns.


Seems like plasticard, some greenstuff and metallic pipes.

   
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Great work again A man!

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Vallejo, CA

Thanks, everyone!
commissar80 wrote:cool what type of material did you use as the frame work for the ogryns.

It's plasticard for the torso, feet, and hands and then .5cm (3/8ths inch) aluminum tubing for the rest. I went to my local hardware store and bought two 1 foot pieces of the structural stuff and then another piece of thicker tubing for the guns. Cost me maybe up to $5. The best part is that aluminum is reasonably rigid in short spans like this while still being pretty easy to cut with a hobby knife. Also, for whatever reason, it superglues to itself rather well, making it, with the help of a touch of greenstuff, very rigid as far as applying GS on top of it is concerned. Once the GS dries, it's as sturdy as if it were cast form plastic.

In the end, the most expensive part is the greenstuff, but given how little you actually use, even on larger projects like this, it probably costs me somewhere between $1 and $2 USD per ogryn (and, of course, the cost in time), which really isn't too bad given that GW's ogryn cost $23 apiece (before shipping...)

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Great work. Have you considered contacting someone like Chapterhouse and making arrangements for selling resin casts?
   
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Super creative! lovin it...
   
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i think you need to include that red-brown color you use for armor somewhere on them


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on the second to last picture what is that guy on the far right?

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i love them!! i would buy badass models like that!



but i can't stand the heads, they seem wayyy too goofy. the rest of the model is bliss, and the heads aren't bad, just seem too goofy too me.

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Vallejo, CA

Nurglitch wrote:Great work. Have you considered contacting someone like Chapterhouse and making arrangements for selling resin casts?

Thanks!

I've started up and subsequently failed enough small businesses to be a bit averse to once again striking it out on my own. I could very much see doing things for already established mini companies (I assume once I refine my skills a little more), but I don't know anybody who works for any, so the odds of getting my work mass-produced seem pretty low.

If you know anyone...

General Ian wrote:i think you need to include that red-brown color you use for armor somewhere on them

I thought about it, but I couldn't find a nice place to put it in. Really, brown is the color of my armor (technically, it's the color of the solar power generating paint that they coat the armor with), and, as they're not wearing any visible armor on the outside, I just couldn't find a place for it.

General Ian wrote:on the second to last picture what is that guy on the far right?

That's actually one of my earlier GS projects: a stormtrooper. I have 4 of my intended 5 done, and the last one just needs a little work to get it finished, but, well... they're stormies. When am I ever actually going to play with them?

Here's a close-up anyways:



As for the heads, not owning any actual ogryn models of my own, I was going off of three pictures:




(because I know a lot of people use Ogre Kingdom models as their base for converted ogryn)

and this guy

Of course, I didn't follow it exactly, but it was my basis. What probably makes them look strange is the choice of hair.

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i like the hair, it just all looks less rough and ogre like to me. it is still amazing, much better than anything I could do, don'tget me wrong. I would have just liked a rougher looking face rather than such a well groomed, intelligent looking face.

those stormtroopers are very cool!

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i still think they look kind of off compared to all the guys with armor

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Vallejo, CA

Sageheart wrote:I would have just liked a rougher looking face rather than such a well groomed, intelligent looking face.

Ah, they're too much like giants and not enough like ogres. I got ya. There's not a whole terrible lot I can do about that now, of course. I guess it will just have to be a different strain of ogrynism (or whatever mutation causes ogryns to exist).

General Ian wrote:i still think they look kind of off compared to all the guys with armor

You just wait and see, they'll look cool with the rest of my human wave.

As well, there is a secret tactical side to this. While I want my rough riders to be as low to the ground and as inconspicuous as possible, I want my ogryns, on the other hand to be shot at as much as it is possible for them to be shot at. Basically, these guys exist to take some of the heat off my power blobs (and to support them in close combat as well, of course). Having a bunch of huge, white things charging down is more likely to draw the attention of my opponents than something more camouflaged.

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Abstract Principles of 40k: Why game imbalance and list tailoring is good, and why tournaments are an absurd farce.

Read "The Geomides Affair", now on sale! No bolter porn. Not another inquisitor story. A book written by a dakkanought for dakkanoughts!
 
   
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yea exactly thats a good way to put it, more like giants than ogres. Don't get me wrong they are amazing!

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Really impressive work, A, as usual. Only trouble is they look a bit too with-it.

   
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Orange County, CA

Wow, these turned out WAY better than I thought seeing the base of a box and some tubes. Excellent work.

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I don't normally comment on a thread unless I feel I have something to offer, but I think you deserve some massive praise for these; Bravo, Sah! Bravo!


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Vallejo, CA


Thanks!

l33tninj4 wrote:Wow, these turned out WAY better than I thought seeing the base of a box and some tubes.

This was actually the hardest part of the first couple of scratchbuilds I did. I had the vision of what it would look like, but when I first got started, I just sort of had to hope it would turn out all right. Thankfully, sticking to the plan yields results, even if they're not forseen at the beginning.

Your one-stop website for batreps, articles, and assorted goodies about the men of Folera: Foleran First Imperial Archives. Read Dakka's favorite narrative battle report series The Hand of the King. Also, check out my commission work, and my terrain.

Abstract Principles of 40k: Why game imbalance and list tailoring is good, and why tournaments are an absurd farce.

Read "The Geomides Affair", now on sale! No bolter porn. Not another inquisitor story. A book written by a dakkanought for dakkanoughts!
 
   
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One the one hand, really, really impressive greenstuffing - I can only imagin how much time and energy you are prepared to put into these guys. But, I do think that ogryns look a bit odd in fancy dress uniforms, it kind of contradicts their job of rushing forward and bashing the enemy. But great job!

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Totally Awesome.

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Great GS work, the one with the sash looks like a massive Kaiser Wilhelm. Good work sir.
   
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Grat work! What model is that in the second to last picture, the model all the way on the right. It looks awesome.


By the way: Love the medals on the Ogryns!
   
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Stonkingly good work there!

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:-) Very cool... Glad I'll not be the only one fielding Orgyn locally...
   
 
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