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HQ

CCS
4 meltas
plasma pistol
Chimera


TROOP

4x
Vets
3 meltas
plasma pistol
Chimera


FAST

3x
3 Sentinel Squadron
3 autocannons


HEAVY

3x
3 Hydra Flak Tank Squadron

1850pts



45 autocannon shots (36 twin linked)
16 meltas


Could be fun. What you think?

Personally, I think armored sentinels are a waste of points and that you are better off with scout sentinels. that said i also hate the open topped sentinel model so i can't really disagree to much...

45 autocannon shots (36 twin linked)
16 meltas

Granted this sounds great, what you need to stop and think is that most of these shoots will come in bulk. I mean its not like your firing off two shoots at a time from your auto cannons. At 1850 the bulk of your armour is light and easy to kill. On top of that your lacking in range with any type of str weapon.



Positive comments

I would add the astro path and drop the sents to scounts. That way you can out flank for rear or side armour shoots on the enemy. That way you can attempt to handle heavy armouned vehciles. Over all this slit change would more than make up for the anti tank that your lacking in. I would take this list on this build if you ran the scout sents and astropath.

If you want to do an all-autocannon list...

CCS, meltabombs -55

PCS - autocannon - 40
2x PIS - autocannons - 120
5x 3x autocannon HWS - 375

PCS - autocannon - 40
2x PIS - autocannons - 120
5x 3x autocannon HWS - 375

3x hydras - 225
3x hydras - 225
3x hydras - 225

54 autocannons (36 twin linked)

Of course, like your list, the question is "why?" The above list I just put out has about the firepower to take down a tac squad a turn. That's right, about 8% of their list per turn. Woot. Against horde armies, assuming they never get cover (which is, of course, absurd), you're taking about 7% of their points down.

I mean, against a DE raider spam army, this list would RULE, but against everything else, it's doing loltastically poor damage. This is a perfect example of my assertion that heavy weapons (especially autocannons) are expensive for what they do. Yes, you're nailing up to 30 GEq's a turn, but at this points level, that simply doesn't matter.

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oh right
this one
can't touch this

NoToTheMan wrote:


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oh right
this one
can't touch this

Yes He can. 16 Meltaguns. Those will mess a Monolith up. Trust me, I've seen it happen.

Probably be better taking

HQ
CCS w/ autoCannon

Troops
PIS x2
PCS w/ autocannon
IS w/ autocannon
IS w/ autocannon
HWT w/ autocannon
HWT w/ autocannon
HWT w/ autocannon
HWT w/ autocannon

Fast
Vendetta
Vendetta
Vendetta

Heavy
Manticore
Manticore
Manticore

That's 3 D3 Str 10 Large Blast, 9 TL Str 9, and 60 Str 7 shots a turn. Hordes no longer a problem, and you have more weapons against heavy armor.

DaOrkz1977 wrote:Probably be better taking

HQ
CCS w/ autoCannon

Troops
PIS x2
PCS w/ autocannon
IS w/ autocannon
IS w/ autocannon
HWT w/ autocannon
HWT w/ autocannon
HWT w/ autocannon
HWT w/ autocannon

Fast
Vendetta
Vendetta
Vendetta

Heavy
Manticore
Manticore
Manticore

That's 3 D3 Str 10 Large Blast, 9 TL Str 9, and 60 Str 7 shots a turn. Hordes no longer a problem, and you have more weapons against heavy armor.

That does not sound like a list I'd want to face.

Flaming_Spider wrote:

NoToTheMan wrote:


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oh right
this one
can't touch this

Yes He can. 16 Meltaguns. Those will mess a Monolith up. Trust me, I've seen it happen.

ok so immobilizes it and takes out a weapon or two
he can only glance it
on a 6

umm no...it's easy penetrating hit within 6" and I can be twin linked. Then a 50/50 chance on the pen that you are bye bye

Monoliths have a load of special rules mate - one of which is, no 2D6 penetration rolls, only one dice. So you'd be using meltaguns to glance on a 6, then destroy on a 6 (AP1).

ahhh yes forget about the anti melta rule it has...i'll just phase him out then :p