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Ailaros wrote:Thankfully, your opponent took the advice and decided to use BA properly this time. Of course, he still took devastators. You walk before you run, I suppose.

While devastators have weaknesses, they are very valuable in a list such as this. Some things can be handled much better by 12 missiles than 17ish more assault marines. Genestealers f.ex. is a pain in the ass for assault marines, so giving them a healthy dose of frags first is a much better option. Keeping shooty vehicles shaken is very valuable so the rest of the list can close the distance, keeping vehicles stunned so you can rip them open i cc is valuable, opening up transports before the marines hit is valuable, having the opportunity to take out stuff that is faster than your jump packs is valuable. IMO, devs are the best firesupport in a jump list, and firesupport is needed in a jump list.

Plasma pistols are full of suck though. Meltas are just so much better, fills the same role & have many other uses. 2 extra normal attacks is not worth the tradeoff.

Ailaros wrote:speaking of reading the codex, do you know what "heroic intervention" does?

I do! I do! and it still does not allow you to assault out of drop pods. Might pay off to tone down the "teaching-voice" when talking about rules you're not 100% on

RonanG wrote:Heres a few tips :

He was playing blood angels right with the assault but against slow moving armys like that a Death company with Lemartes would always do well.

Jump pack DC is horrible, they will spend any game chasing land speeders etc. Letting your opponent play your army is not a good idea.

So what's wrong with using Baal Predators then? If anything the fact they can outflank helps make the army's initial assault a lot more sudden.

They will be the target of every enemy anti-tank weapon. Anti-infantry is also not something this army lacks.

They can, but you are relying on those 6's. It is not a "good" weapon against vehicles. (I know it is better than a single lascannon against AV14), however, 4x missile launcher will get way more rolls on damage table than 1 assault cannon and they have longer range. For AV14, melta is waaaaay better anyway. The baal is mainly an anti-infantry vehicle. Baals are also great in mech lists, but they are sub-par in jump lists.