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So i love the model but there are no rules for it out side of epic and the air game!
BOLS made a datasheet for it but just llike GW those holes suckerpunched chaos players and had them pay more points for a superheavy that does consideraby less than other superheavies... i mean anythign shooting it counts as AA with it...? its the size of a manta and the manta still gets flyer rules.... oh and AV 10? yet thunderhawks ate 12?


anyways here is BOLS one

The Manta still has the AA rule where you use BS to shoot it, and you're forgetting that flyers always have a 4+ cover save in the newer version of the Flyer rules (IA Apoc II).

and AV? and the inconsistencies on the autocannons
?

I admit AV is a tad low for something like this, but like I said, the 4+ cover save increases it's survivability, but like all Flyers, it only takes one Immobilised result to down it, regardless of wherever it is a lowly Arvus, or a Manta.

Regarding the Autocannons, have you seen the bomb cap on this thing? The Harbringer isn't designed to go in gunsblazing, it's designed to pummel anything in the way with bombs, with the Autocannons simply for AA defence.

Valkyrie wrote:I admit AV is a tad low for something like this, but like I said, the 4+ cover save increases it's survivability, but like all Flyers, it only takes one Immobilised result to down it, regardless of wherever it is a lowly Arvus, or a Manta.

Regarding the Autocannons, have you seen the bomb cap on this thing? The Harbringer isn't designed to go in gunsblazing, it's designed to pummel anything in the way with bombs, with the Autocannons simply for AA defence.

Then ALL the autocannons should be AA no? either All or none, pick one!

p.s very hard to immoilise this one, remember its a super heavy, it will get a drive damaged.


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p.s valk get my pm?

There's a model for this? And it's the size of a manta? Linky?

Noooo theres basically an epic scale model for it off FW gotta scratch build the big guy!

IronfrontAlex wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:I admit AV is a tad low for something like this, but like I said, the 4+ cover save increases it's survivability, but like all Flyers, it only takes one Immobilised result to down it, regardless of wherever it is a lowly Arvus, or a Manta.

Regarding the Autocannons, have you seen the bomb cap on this thing? The Harbringer isn't designed to go in gunsblazing, it's designed to pummel anything in the way with bombs, with the Autocannons simply for AA defence.

Then ALL the autocannons should be AA no? either All or none, pick one!

p.s very hard to immoilise this one, remember its a super heavy, it will get a drive damaged.


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p.s valk get my pm?

Nope, haven't received any PMs