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I was looking through my codex a few minutes ago and was reading the mobile command vehicle rule. It pretty much says that a commad sqaud/pcs can issue orders out of it, but my question is if the squad you are issuing the orders to is in a chimera as well would they be able to receive the order? Or does them being in a Chimera not allow it?

for example, how can a unit IN a chimera execute the 'Get down!' or, MOVE,MOVE,MOVE!' order.

They can't recieve the order. hope this helped.

Scrazza wrote:for example, how can a unit IN a chimera execute the 'Get down!' or, MOVE,MOVE,MOVE!' order.

They can't recieve the order. hope this helped.

Yeah, some orders wouldnt work at all, but im mainly asking about orders like "Fire on my target" and "Bring it down" stuff like that. Because I know you can fire 5 shots from your squad out of the hatch, and if you could have them following orders this could be a very good thing lol.

No, if the unit is in vehicle it can't be ordered around. This strangely include the Commander's own unit.

Oscarius wrote:No, if the unit is in vehicle it can't be ordered around. This strangely include the Commander's own unit.

Thank you for your help, both posters.

I think is says somewhere in the codex that you can't give orders to embarked units. But problem solved, and was glad to help.

P29 "Orders cannot be issued to squads that are embarked in a transport vehicle or units that have already run, made a shooting attack or have already received an order that turn."

So, technically, you could issue an order to an embarked IC. Very strange wording - why switch from squads to units mid-sentence?

Scott-S6 wrote:why switch from squads to units mid-sentence?

GW Are idiots who can't proofread?

Also, "Squads" doesn't mean anything in the rules, so you can't target an IC.

You're allowed to target "units".
"select a single friendly non-vehicle unit"

You are not allowed to target embarked squads. So an embarked IC is valid.

If the word squad is considered to be meaningless then you can target all embarked units.

Gwar! wrote:
Also, "Squads" doesn't mean anything in the rules, so you can't target an IC.

Wouldn't this make Scott's observation valid? If you can't give orders to derp embarked in a transport, then I'd think you could still give orders to units embarked, especially since they differentiated between the two in the very same sentence, accident or otherwise.

Something I'd never play, just by virtue of so few of the orders actually making sense in that situation, and I'd go for intent of rules at this point.

daedalus wrote:

Gwar! wrote:
Also, "Squads" doesn't mean anything in the rules, so you can't target an IC.

Wouldn't this make Scott's observation valid? If you can't give orders to derp embarked in a transport, then I'd think you could still give orders to units embarked, especially since they differentiated between the two in the very same sentence, accident or otherwise.

Something I'd never play, just by virtue of so few of the orders actually making sense in that situation, and I'd go for intent of rules at this point.

I almost said the same thing as scott; then I read the IG codex. Every unit(comprised of more than 1 model, except for Conscripts) is Named a Squad; so we do have a term that holds meaning, it is specifying names.

Quite so. In which case embarked ICs are valid targets for orders (they are a non-vehicle unit and they are not an embarked squad).

Embarked ANYTHING are a target. IC's are Units, as is an Infantry Squad.

Yeah, I made a booboo and misread.

-sigh- Why can't GW hire proofreaders.

Gwar; an infantry Squad is a unit(not forbidden by virtue of unit status), but it is still by name a Squad(Squads are specifically forbidden)


P.S. Given GWs history of writing Squad when they mean unit(they have done it several times in this editions Codexes, and have changed most of them through Errata) I generally Play(and just about read) any instances of "squad" to mean "Unit" in Army rules.