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Sniveling Snotling



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Last night me and a couple friends had a game and we were wondering, for certain moves that utilize the various blast templates, how do you know when they scatter? His Eldrad has a psychic power that uses the small blast template, and I believe he also has a psychic power that uses the large blast, do those scatter? what about cover saves? How do you determine whether someone has a cover save when using ordinance weapons? This may be in the big rulebook but I couldn't find it... any help would be much appreciated.

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Templates scatter when they say they scatter.

Eldritch Storm, Eldrad's psychic power, is used in the Shooting Phase and is thus a Psychic Shooting Weapon - therefore it scatters like a normal template attack, iirc, but it doesn't require line of sight. It's a large blast, however, not a small one. No, it's not worth it's points on a normal Farseer

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Sniveling Snotling



Plymouth Michigan

but eldritch storm doesn'tsay it scatters. Do all template weapons(obviously not flame templates) scatter 1d6? I thought I remember reading how ordinance scattered more(2d6)

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Any weapon with the blast profile follows the rules for blast markers & scatter, as written in the BRB.

I can't say specifically for Eldritch Storm, but just because it doesn't say it scatters does not mean it does not. It must say "it does not scatter" in order to override the more general rule of blast marker attacks scattering.

Note that some abilities that use the blast markers (such as "The Last Laugh") are not shooting attacks and therefore do not follow the rules for scatter - they simply use the marker as a convenient circular measurement.

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Sniveling Snotling



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Xca|iber wrote:Any weapon with the blast profile follows the rules for blast markers & scatter, as written in the BRB.

I can't say specifically for Eldritch Storm, but just because it doesn't say it scatters does not mean it does not. It must say "it does not scatter" in order to override the more general rule of blast marker attacks scattering.

Note that some abilities that use the blast markers (such as "The Last Laugh") are not shooting attacks and therefore do not follow the rules for scatter - they simply use the marker as a convenient circular measurement.


Thank you much! I was saying that, but he was saying it shouldn't scatter since it is a psychic power. We are both fairly new to the game though so either case would have made sense to us.

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As already stated, they do scatter the standard 2d6-BS.

Also, Farseers (and Eldrad) only have a power that uses the Large Blast Marker, nothing that uses the Small Blase Marker. (P.S. It's really bad and not worth using).

Also also, the Flame weapon plastic thing is the only one called a "Template". The other 2 are called "Large Blast Marker" and "Small Blast Marker". It's not a huge issue (and many veteran players screw up the terms), but it can help avoid any confusion that can sometimes come up when reading the rulebook.

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