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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/09 23:36:59
Subject: Vehicle Cover Save Query
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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As far as I know the test for discerning whether a vehicle is obscured and in turn benefits from a standard cover save is whether the facing being shot at is > or = 50% blocked. Now I read the rule and it did not have any exceptions or caveats. However in the last game i played the opposing player said I could not claim a cover save for my rhino because there was a line of troops standing on a one inch hill in front of it. In other words, he argued that vehicles cannot be obscured by infantry. Is this true? I believe he consulted a mini-rulebook during the game. What's the deal?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/09 23:46:30
Subject: Vehicle Cover Save Query
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Proud Phantom Titan
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You need to cover 50% of the vehicle from the firing models view; doesn't matter what blocks the view just so long as its blocked. Was 50% blocked? Yes, then you get a cover save: No, then you don’t.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/09 23:48:02
Subject: Re:Vehicle Cover Save Query
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Wicked Warp Spider
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What Tri said; also remember that you can't claim cover from the unit (the space between the models) only from the models themselves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/09 23:58:03
Subject: Vehicle Cover Save Query
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Deuce11 wrote:As far as I know the test for discerning whether a vehicle is obscured and in turn benefits from a standard cover save is whether the facing being shot at is > or = 50% blocked. Now I read the rule and it did not have any exceptions or caveats. However in the last game i played the opposing player said I could not claim a cover save for my rhino because there was a line of troops standing on a one inch hill in front of it. In other words, he argued that vehicles cannot be obscured by infantry. Is this true? I believe he consulted a mini-rulebook during the game. What's the deal?
He was, plain and simply, wrong.
Vehicles can get cover saves from anything, so long as it physically obscures 50% of the facing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/09 23:58:23
Subject: Vehicle Cover Save Query
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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precisely as I thought. TFG... never playing him again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/10 08:19:21
Subject: Vehicle Cover Save Query
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Lord of the Fleet
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Note however, that a line of infantry does not generally obscure 50% of the vehicle.
The actual models need to cover half of the vehicle, that very rarely happens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/10 15:24:46
Subject: Vehicle Cover Save Query
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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Scott-S6 wrote:Note however, that a line of infantry does not generally obscure 50% of the vehicle.
The actual models need to cover half of the vehicle, that very rarely happens.
Yeah I understand. In the circumstance that I was in, the troops were standing on a hill in front of the rhino. 50%+ was definitely covered.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/11 19:35:31
Subject: Vehicle Cover Save Query
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Fixture of Dakka
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Deuce11 wrote:precisely as I thought. TFG... never playing him again.
He may simply be assuming the rule about shooting through a unit granting a cover save and is not TFG. Just point out to him the exception for MC and Vehicles in the BGB.
If he still demands a cover save, then never play him again.
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