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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate





Regarding Multiple assaults Can a units assaulting multiple units skip models to assault multiple units while maintaining unit coherency? I had 3 units of fire warriors (2 [12] man units 6 wide 2 deep) (1 [6] man unit)and his one unit of 7 bike squad. He assaulted my left unit 1st and went to my right but maintained unit coherency but skipped viable model to do such feat. I that legal or illegal?


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Regarding combat resolution does all the damage cumulate between the 3 units assaulted or is it resolved per unit? Such as the 1 biker (left) killed 1 model) the 4 (center) killed 4 and the 2 (right) models killed them all. Does the other 2 units have to test on 2's or just the wounds inflicted per unit?

If you can provide any page information in the Rulebook or FAQ's be greatly apprecaited.
   
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Lord of the Fleet






Nothing says you have to try to engage every model in the target unit. Note the bullet points on P34

1. Must end it's move in coherency
2. Must move into base contact with "any enemy model that is not in base contact with an assaulting model" if possible
Note that it does not specify "model in the unit you declared an assault against".

Re combat res, both units must test with a modifier based on how much the combat (total) was lost by. See P41 - Multiple Combats - Assault Results.
   
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alcyonmz wrote:Regarding Multiple assaults Can a units assaulting multiple units skip models to assault multiple units while maintaining unit coherency? I had 3 units of fire warriors (2 [12] man units 6 wide 2 deep) (1 [6] man unit)and his one unit of 7 bike squad. He assaulted my left unit 1st and went to my right but maintained unit coherency but skipped viable model to do such feat. I that legal or illegal?

As per the rules on page 34 for assaulting multiple enemy units, the first model moved has to go to the unit against which the assault was declared. After that, you can move your models onto whichever enemy models you wish, so long as the rules for moving assaulting models are followed. There is no requirement to engage all of the original target unit first, or move onto the enemy models in any specific order.

So yes, provided that each model was finishing its assault move in coherency with a model from its unit that had already moved, and was winding up in base contact if at all possible, it was legal.


Regarding combat resolution does all the damage cumulate between the 3 units assaulted or is it resolved per unit? Such as the 1 biker (left) killed 1 model) the 4 (center) killed 4 and the 2 (right) models killed them all. Does the other 2 units have to test on 2's or just the wounds inflicted per unit?

Combat Resolution is for the combat as a whole, not per unit. You tally up the number of wounds taken by each side, not just each unit. Explained on page 39, 40 and 41 of the rulebook.

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Check list:
1. Was the first model he moved the model closest to the target unit?
2. Did the first model moved travel to the closest model by the shortest distance?
3. Did he move subsequent models one-by-one (although no inherent priority)?
4. Did his models, each time he let one of them go, stand in coherency?
5. Did any of the models move more than their allowed distance?
6. When he moved any of his models, did they touch difficult terrain? If so, did he roll for it before he moved the first model?

Now, I do not know what direction them bikers came from, but it sounds like your opponent made an illegal assault, violating either 1 or 2 or both.

I really need to stay away from the 40K forums. 
   
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Well the 3rd unit was in cover(forest) but he rolled difficult terrain test for his 2 bikers, they didn't roll a one. But I think he said since one of is biker in the center was the closest he was able to assault the far left squad, even though the far left biker had the same distance to the left most model in the center squad. But I'll keep an Eye out for this scenario again and hope to catch it before it happens.
   
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Woodbridge, VA

OK, closest only matters for the first model in the assault, the one that is actually assaulting the unit against which he declared an assault. After that, all you have to do is follow the checklist that Mahtamori posted.

Sounds like what he did is legal. There is no requirement for models after the first to base with the nearest unoccupied enemy model, only that they base with an unengaeged enemy model if possible (while still followint the other rules, of course).

So next time, keep a wider gap between those units.

Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
Northern VA/Southern MD 
   
 
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