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So the funky new Baal Predator, would you take the assault cannon to kill a few infantry and maybe pop a vehicle or go in face with the fearsome flamestorm but exposing yourself to melta.

Answers on a postcard how and why like which turret weapon

Thanks

Assault Cannon is better in every practical way.

First, it shoots 3x as far.

Second, Assault Cannons do a fair job killing light armored vehicles. So less having to punch things with your guys.

The only thing a Flamestorm does better is killed wadded up hordes. Last time I checked, Blood Angels assault forces had no troubles with wiping out such things with their non-vehicle units. They do have some issues killing transports and getting to their juicy centers. Assault Cannons fix that.

Wouldn't a assault cannon be the same as flamestorm is S6 and you're banking on getting a rending shot which isn't always going to do better.

Statistically, an assault cannon is better at taking out vehicles than a lascannon. So yeah, it is worth it for taking out enemy tanks and armor.

Assault cannon, as Irdiumstern said is better than a lascannon against tanks, and can penetrate any armour value, plus it relys less on what you roll, although admittedly it dosen't always rend.

Personally i prefer the assault cannon, but the flamestorm can be fun to play occasionally. i have magnetised and friction fitted my baal preds so that i can change from assault cannon to flamestorm and also the sponsons so i can have sponsons or doors and bolters or flamers on the sponsons. it a good kit to do all of this with.

The flamestorm cannon Baal is like that hot chick with really short skirts trying to bend over to pickup something up. More often than not,its gonna be hit on =)

Has anyone used a flamestorm on the Baal?

I just think that the assault cannon is hoping to get rending to bust vehicles, which isn't always going to happen.

I'm going to put two in my list maybe and try the flamestorm then assault cannons and see which one is best. Because my infantry is only 45 I think the flamestorms would be handy for anti horde.

Yuber wrote:The flamestorm cannon Baal is like that hot chick with really short skirts trying to bend over to pickup something up. More often than not,its gonna be hit on =)

I vote for Flamestorm cannons because of the above.

Assault cannons are better than lascannons agaınst av 13+, below that lascannons are better.

Flamestorms are nıce to surprıse n00bs wıth you dont know how scout works, but thats about ıt.

''Why are you movıng your tanks??''

''Its called scout movıng. Im poppıng smoke too.''

-Fırst turn

''OK, so I hıt 7 marınes wıth my template, woundıng on 2s, 6 wounds.''

''OK, so 3+ saves..''

''No, theyre ap3.''

'' ''

-Hıs shootıng phase

''OK, so 1 pen on your baal..''

''Ill take my smoke cover save thanks.''

''But you fıred last turn!?!''

''Read the FAQ dude.'' -gıves FAQ

'' motherfu***** Jervıs WTF ''

I have both, but always use the flamestorm cannon varient. First I have enough anti-tank in the army so I don't need a tank to shoot more tanks. What I do need is a way to get pesky Long Fang squads out of the trees in the back of the board. Your opponents entire gameplan chanmges when you outflank with the Flamestorm Baal. IMO it affects the game in a greater way than the assault cannon version does.

Jabbdo wrote:Assault cannons are better than lascannons agaınst av 13+, below that lascannons are better.



'' motherfu***** Jervıs WTF ''

Not sure how you figure that. Yeah assault cannons rely on rending somewhat, but they have 4x the number of shots as a lascannon. And they're TL.
My vote is assault cannons all the way. Whether you deploy them normal, or outflank and go for side armor, then the assault cannons are beasts at AT.
Like others have said assault marines (or even tactical marines) are decent anti horde as it is.

mercer wrote:Wouldn't a assault cannon be the same as flamestorm is S6 and you're banking on getting a rending shot which isn't always going to do better.

Even without Rending, 4 twin-linked BS 4 Str 6 shots are better than one auto-hitting Str 6 shot.

Plus, it does have Rending.

Well I don't think I need the anti tank as I've got 7 las/plas razorbacks, 6 meltas and 4 krak missiles. Horde I've got a few flamers, but my problem is small man squads which mass hordes will tie up or crush. I think for me flamestorm would be better.

Assault cannon seems to be better in most regards, it'll knock out a walker, or equally ruin the day of any infantrymen who decided to zip out in front of it

Also, if your using the flamestorm, your gonna be alot closer than the Assault cannon, and I dislike the idea of a PF weilding ninja, or melta blast seizing the chance to ruin the paintjob of the tank.

flamestorm forces the opponents to deal with it. No one wants that flame all up in their guys so they take it out. I like the flamestorm for the imprint it has on the game as a whole

racta wrote:flamestorm forces the opponents to deal with it. No one wants that flame all up in their guys so they take it out. I like the flamestorm for the imprint it has on the game as a whole

This is why I run 2 Baals with Flamestorms. Yes two. The enemy has to deal with them. Move 12" then flame something. P-fist and other such stuff has to hit on a 6. Yeah you can shoot at them in the side armor with melta and plasma, but those shots are now not going against Memphy. Who is rapidly getting too close for comfort.

Vehicle poping isn't an issue either as I run two devi squads. Yup you heard me right, two. My BA list is soooooo not typical BA. Catches people by surprise.