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Chaos army list

Total - 1502

HQ
Abaddon the despoiler – 275 points


Elites
Chaos terminators X 5- 240 points
Icon of tzeentch (to make it really hard to kill)
Two chainfists
Reaper autocannon

Troops
Chaos space marines X 10 – total 245 points
Aspiring champion with power fist
Icon of Khorne bearer
Meltagun
Plasma gun
Khorne beserkers x8 – total 248 points
Skull champion
Two plasma pistols
Rhino dedicated transport
Chaos space marines x 10 -165
Flamer
Heavy bolter

Heavy support
One Obliterator – 75 points
Chaos defiler; no changes -150 points



Summoned daemons
8 bloodletters – 104 points

any help improving this list or commenting would be appreciated!


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cmon guys I need help!

turaku wrote:Total - 1502

Generally, a friendly player that you know will be okay with your list being over a limit, but it's polite to *always* come under the limit.

turaku wrote:Chaos terminators X 5- 240 points
Icon of tzeentch (to make it really hard to kill)
Two chainfists
Reaper autocannon

Not near as lovely as Oblits. I'm converting my AoBR termies into Oblits. Are these the metal models? Still, termies can be termies, and I bet Abbadon hangs with them, yes?

turaku wrote:Chaos space marines X 10 – Meltagun Plasma gun

Unite the squad's purpose and try for two of the same toy. Both flamers, both MGs, whichever.

turaku wrote:Chaos space marines Flamer Heavy bolter

As above. The HB is long range, stand still, whereas the flamer is an assault wep. I'd put the plasmagun from the other CSM unit with the HB, and place the flamer and MG together (though ideally they should be the same) in that first squad with the Pfist.

turaku wrote:Summoned daemons 8 bloodletters – 104 points

You do note they're not bloodletters, but simply 'lesser daemons', lacking a power wep.

A big disappointment to me ... after I'd bought 20 of the stupid things to enhance my CSM army.

Yeah, summoned lesser daemons (not Bloodletters) aren't really worth the points. I would say drop them for another obliterator and upgrade one group of CSM to Plague Marines. I think you should have enough points (or close) to do that.

thanks for the replies guys, but I can't really switch to plague marines because of my models, I can easily switch weapons between two regular CSM but it would make it hard with plague marines. perhaps there are some useful wargear upgrades I could take?

EDIT: also I was thinking of having a high firepower squad (pfist champion) and one anti-horde squad, with heavy bolter and flamer. Would this work or is switching to long-range/ close range better?

hi guys I really need some more help, any answers would help!

If you are interested in switching to plague marines, but only have regular marines, I would go with this http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=&pageMode=multi&categoryId=400029§ion=&pIndex=16&aId=1200005&start=17

Converted two squads of normal CSM into PM with it, and they turned out well.

Also, I would probably warn against Abaddon as an HQ at this point level. He costs more than two winged Daemon Princes, and only slightly lower than 2 DPs with psychic powers. Even ifyou don't want to jump on that Bandwagon, I would still recommend looking at the other choices.

ohh yeah, true, I've seen that article before actually, didn't think of that. even then I've already painted up my first squad, so I just added another obliterator and upgraded my squad to a champ with a power weapon