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File under "things never to do again": charge a unit of these that have a 3+ ward save and four attacks each. This has to be the nastiest single unit in the game.

Running strait into a deathstar is not the brightest idea. Focus on killing the rest of his army, thats what I do (6 WoC players at my FLGS - not including my small army) so I see this unit too often.


I'm fairly certain that unit is the only unit in the game that can reroll a reroll.

Ironicly, this unit is the reason that Chaos is so terrible.

I didn't have any trouble with the last Chosen deathstar I faced.

18xChosen w/Halberds, MoN, FC, Favor, and a Lvl2 Nurgle Sorc and Festus in the unit. He got +1A at the beginning.

On turn 2, They fled 12" like pansies, screaming for Nurgle to save them from the scary slavegiant rushing toward them.
One turn 3, they rally, but have to deal with 2 gorgers
Turn 4, They run in terror from the giant again. This time off the board.

I think next time, my opponent will bring a BSB along.

Chosen are kinda expensive. Plus they could get a measly "Fear" roll. getting 2 6's is rare but powerful. Kinda prefer normal warrior units over them

Um.... the chosen unit should have re-rolled anyway. Terror-causing units force units they charge to make a PANIC test, which almost all chaos units re-roll already.

However he would still cause fear and if he failed that, his super awesome unit is now WS1 and needs 5+ to hit the giant.

kenshin620 wrote:getting 2 6's is rare but powerful.

It's not that rare. If the unit have Favor of the Gods and the Wailing banner, they can re-roll any roll except for a result of "4" or "5".

Tzeentchling9 wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:getting 2 6's is rare but powerful.

It's not that rare. If the unit have Favor of the Gods and the Wailing banner, they can re-roll any roll except for a result of "4" or "5".

True I suppose, didnt take that into account

Tzeentchling9 wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:getting 2 6's is rare but powerful.

It's not that rare. If the unit have Favor of the Gods and the Wailing banner, they can re-roll any roll except for a result of "4" or "5".

I am just starting 8th ed. WHFB with my first army being chaos and I am intrigued by this remark for I cannot seem to find it in the books I have.
Page 43 (WoC book) explains how the Eye of the Gods works and I know Chosen can re-roll this.
But I fail to see how you have such great odds at rolling the elusive "double 6" for the awesome 4+ ward/Stubborn.
I've read how you can re-roll double 1, the eye is closed and fearsome aura/terrifying appearance if you have the terror banner.
But how can you re-roll "Flames of Chaos" (8) or Command of the Gods" (9) for example?

Would you care to explain this to me?

Much appreciated.

If you give the unit champion the "Favour of the Gods" enchanted item, you can modify the roll you make by +1 or -1. Sooooo here we go:

2: reroll
3: -1=2, reroll
4: -1 or +1, you're stuck with that.
5: Same, -1 or +1 you're stuck.
6: +1=7, reroll
7: reroll
8: -1=7, reroll
9: +1=10, fear, reroll
10: fear, reroll
11: +1=12, bingo!
12: Bingo!


Since either an 11 OR a 12 will get you a 12 using that item, you almost triple your odds anyway. But add in the rerolling goodness and you're set.

Now just bring along a warshrine. IF you got a 3 or a 4, use the warshrine and while the warshrine's buff isn't quite as good [no option to reroll 2's and 7's when using a warshrine] you still have a good chance to get the 4+ ward buff.

thanks for the explanation.

I wonder if I'll be executed by my opponent for pulling that trick though...

Elkerlyc wrote:thanks for the explanation.

I wonder if I'll be executed by my opponent for pulling that trick though...

Not really, the Wailing Banner is pretty expensive on an already really expensive unit.

Funny story...saw a game of Empire vs Chaos yesterday, guy charged 50 Greatswords into a 30 Chosen he had this smug look on his face expecting the greatswords to massacre them. Guy who was working at the store saw what just went down and yelled : IT'S A TRAP! I almost died of laughter in the store~

Old One Eye wrote:Funny story...saw a game of Empire vs Chaos yesterday, guy charged 50 Greatswords into a 30 Chosen he had this smug look on his face expecting the greatswords to massacre them. Guy who was working at the store saw what just went down and yelled : IT'S A TRAP! I almost died of laughter in the store~

Admiral Ackbar works at your store?

Dwarves counter this unit easily, bring a train of slayers like this:

C=chosen, S=slayer

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S
S
S
S
S
S

Unbreakable, only able to attack one at a time. When encountering an ass, counter with assery.

Dwarf trick will not work.

You have to maximize which means I get 2 chosen plus 2 backup which gives me 7 to 9 attacks which should kill 6 a turn on average.

May slow it down but slayers are expensive and will get chopped up pretty quick with this.