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CompanyCommandSquad-50pts
plasma pistol-10pts
4 plasma guns-60pts
carapace armour-20pts
Chimera-55pts
=195pts

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StormTrooperSquad-85pts
plasma pistol-10pts
2 melta guns-20pts

StormTrooperSquad-85pts
plasma pistol-10pts
2 melta guns-20pts

StormTrooperSquad-85pts
plasma pistol-10pts
2 melta guns-20pts
=345pts

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Veteran Squad-70pts
plasma pistol-10pts
3 plasma guns-45pts
carapace armour-30pts
chimera-55pts

Veteran Squad-70pts
plasma pistol-10pts
3 plasma guns-45pts
carapace armour-30pts
chimera-55pts
=420pts

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LRBT with bolters-170pts
LRBT with bolters-170pts
LRBT with bolters-170pts

LRDT with lascannon and plasma cannons-220pts

Manticore-160pts
=890pts

im fighting mainly MEQ's. im going to give all the stormtroopers the reroll the deep strike scatter dice. so any helpful suggestions?

I think you have a few individual point costs, better get rid of them.

For 1850, this list has one big fat weakness, only 2 guardsmen stat troops. Drop all the Storms, make them vets. Drop Carapace and PP on the vets. Drop sponsons on all russes. Maybe even swap the normal russes for valks if you still want the ability to jump into the fight

I like Stormies as much as the next guy, but 3 squads is a bit too much. I would lose one in favor of another vet squad. You're kind of low in that department too. You have the minimum number of troop choices for an 1850pt list. This will not go well in capture and control games. I suggest boosting your troop count. In order to do this though you're going to need to shave off points. First your Stormtroopers don't need plasma pistols. The way it looks is that they are going to be hunting tanks. The 2 meltas should be enough. And once they do they're job they're pretty much dispensable. Your CCS is alright. Some would say put a medic in favor of the carapace and 4th gun, but I've heard this way works just as good to. If you do add another Vet squad just give em melta and nothing else. Your Plasma Vets are already pricey (worth it, but pricey).
It also seem like this list is relying too heavily on its armor. Armor is great, but vehicle squad rules tend to make life harder for lists that absolutely rely on it. I suggest Shaving off the 2 Leman Russes in favor or 2 Vendettas for some Vet squads. I'd also turn that Demo into a LRBT. Drop the sponsons too and just add hull LCs. Sponsons are good for stationary vehicles, which is looking like the way you were going (i.e. surround the manticore with the 3 LRBT) Albeit, not a bad idea, but if you were to keep with that then I'd say drop the Demolisher in favor of more troops.

i love valks but have no models of em sadly. and i really do love stormtroopers. deep striking behind a tank and putting a melta up in there makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. and i think i will take out the demolisher it is alot of points.

I have 3 ten man stortrooper squads in a daemonhunters army. they are easily worth their points

The Acolyte wrote:I have 3 ten man stortrooper squads in a daemonhunters army. they are easily worth their points

Inquisitional Storm Troopers=/=Imperial Guard Storm Troopers

IG storms cost as much as space marines. Only way I like them is suicide strike like what the above list has. But that would mean nothing as long as there is a lack of troops

A medipack for your Company HQ would do wonders for keeping the plasma guns alive. Otherwise, I'd like to echo bumping the number of your troop squads up. Also, if you fight alot of 'mech, have you considered a vanquisher?

I dunno, I would stay away from the vanquisher if I were him. Guard have a variety of ways to get AT, and the vanquisher is one of the more expensive and not so good choices. If he wanted to take the Vanquisher then he's pretty much going to have to take Pask to make it worth while, which by that time we're talking about a large point sink.

It's nice, but too bottom-heavy. Take out at least one of those HS slots and spend it on a third mechvet squad.

IBID.

I would suggest getting rid of the Storm Troopers and going MECHVET or Invest in Inquisitorial Allies, SoB in a bird tend to be awesome.

CompanyCommandSquad-50pts
plasma pistol-10pts
melta bombs-5pts
4 plasma guns-60pts
carapace armour-20pts
Chimera-55pts
extra armour-15pts
dozer-10pts
=225pts

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StormTrooperSquad-85pts
2 melta guns-20pts

StormTrooperSquad-85pts
2 melta guns-20pts

marbo-65pts
=275pts

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veteran squad-70pts
3 melta guns-30pts
chimera-55pts
extra armour-15pts
dozer-10pts

Veteran Squad-70pts
3 plasma guns-45pts
carapace armour-30pts
chimera-55pts
extra armour-15pts
dozer-10pts

Veteran Squad-70pts
3 plasma guns-45pts
carapace armour-30pts
chimera-55pts
extra armour-15pts
dozer-10pts
=630pts

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LRBT with plasma cannon and heavy stubber-200ptspts
LRBT with bolters and heavy stubber-180pts
LRBT with bolters and heavy stubber-180pts

Manticore-160pts
=720pts

wat do?

sierm wrote:IBID.

I would suggest getting rid of the Storm Troopers and going MECHVET or Invest in Inquisitorial Allies, SoB in a bird tend to be awesome.

Huh, I never actually thought about putting Sisters in a Valk...comparing them to a squad of stormies with 2 meltas, they're quite a bit cheaper and have better armor. I may have to try that.

As for the updated list, It's better. However, I'm not a fan of all those dozer blades and extra armor. You've got 100pts invested solely in that. With that many points you could make all the LRBT have plasma sponsons (which are far better than the heavy bolters) and have points over for Pask or something.

Also, just for future info when making a list we don't need each individual point cost for the stuff you're putting on. An overall point cost for the unit is good enough. It makes it less time consuming for you and something about the GW copyright not being broken . So heed this advice lest you want to be on the run from the MODs

WhiteWolf01 wrote: and have points over for Pask or something.

If you have points left over to get pask though, you must have done something very wrong with the list

kenshin620 wrote:

WhiteWolf01 wrote: and have points over for Pask or something.

If you have points left over to get pask though, you must have done something very wrong with the list

Lol, QFT

I guess the other option would be to upgrade a tank to an Executioner. Otherwise he could drop Marbo and slip in another meltavet squad. There's a variety of options available here with the extra points from all that chimera paraphernalia.

I'd drop all the exta armor, and the Stormtroopers.
you could work in 2 Hydras for 150. great at popping Rhinos.

"LRBT with plasma cannon and heavy stubber-200ptspts "
do you mean an Executioner? if so, might as well give it the Plasma sponsons.

if you drop all the Extra armor, Dozer blades, plasma pistol, stormies and Marbo - your at 1465.

add 2 Hydras - 150
plasma sponsons - 40
Vet sqd. - 155

leaves you 40 points for a Sentinel if you want.

Agreed with all above. No to Pask, yes to dropping extra armor and dozer blades. Im guessing you only have LRBT to field, that's a fine mobile fire base. If you can swing the valks, do it. Inquisition Allies are good, but again, if you can't field it, go guard. Al'harem would be a good option for upgrading your troops. Otherwise, consider Hellhounds or some variant (depending on the prevailing meta where you play). If you believe in Stormtroopers, pursue using them. But remember, they, like vets, die in droves unsupported. You need more bodies in your list.