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2010/10/23 07:22:41
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Wicked Ghast
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Hey Dakka,
I'm teaching a new player how to play, and she's interested in starting a Tyranid army so I helped her point up a 1850 list. C&C needed as I don't play 'nids, all I know is forum-talk that I've read.
HQ-
Tervigon w/ adrenal glands, toxin sacs, catalyst [195]
Elites-
Hive Guard (x2) [100]
Hive Guard (x2) [100]
Hive Guard (x2) [100]
Troops-
Termagaunts (x30) Devourers [300]
Termagaunts (x30) Devourers [300]
Tervigon w/ adrenal glands, toxin sacs, catalyst [195]
Fast Attack
Gargoyles (x13) [78]
Gargoyles (x13) [78]
Heavy Support-
Trygon [200]
Trygon [200]
Thanks again!
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Cryx: 100 pts painted
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2010/10/23 13:45:31
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Lord of the Fleet
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I think the gant broods are a bit too big. Drop devourers on them and lower them to 20-25. That should give enough points to get another trygon and/or make a few of them primes. If possible get the tervigons scythes. CLuster Spines is also good for them
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2010/10/23 14:15:12
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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yes upgrade to cluster spine, and drop the gant brood size.
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2010/10/23 14:37:24
Subject: Re:**1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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13 models is too low of a model count for gargoyles imo. You need around 20 or so for them to shine. Also slap em with toxin sacs and possibley the adrenal glands. Super cheap upgrades and it turns them into raw killing machines.
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Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die. ++
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2010/10/23 15:25:59
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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you could try this:
Tervigon- scything talons, catalyst, toxin, cluster spines- 190
2 hive guard- 100
2 hive guard- 100
2 hive guard- 100
Tervigon- scything talons, catalyst, toxin, cluster spines- 190
15 gants- 75
15 gants- 75
15 gargoyles- adrenal glands, toxin sacs- 120
15 gargoyles- adrenal glands, toxin sacs- 120
15 gargoyles- adrenal glands, toxin sacs- 120
trygon- adrenal glands, toxin sacs- 220
trygon- adrenal glands, toxin sacs- 220
trygon- adrenal glands, toxin sacs- 220
thats 1850 on the dot
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2010/10/23 16:22:59
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Fighter Ace
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Toxin Sacs on the Trygon? WHYYYYYYYY?
Srsly.
As for everyone advocating dropping the Devourers off the Gants.... sure it makes them cheaper, but if you want your basic troops to do ANYTHING all game, throwing Devourers on them gives them a solid chance of doing so. 10 DevGants put out 30 shots a turn!
I likw the above list adjustment, but I think if you drop the Toxin Sacs off the Trygon, Shrink the Gant squad sizes down, and give them Devourers, you'll actually find your basic troops contributing on non-objective holding games.
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2010/10/23 16:26:11
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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i like the toxin sacs for the rerolls to wound on anything t6(t7 on the charge) and lower...
mephiston, other nid big guys, and those pesky 1s that always pop up when assaulting terminators. its 10 points to reroll wounds, thats why i take them.
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2010/10/23 20:48:34
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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zachwho wrote:i like the toxin sacs for the rerolls to wound on anything t6(t7 on the charge) and lower...
mephiston, other nid big guys, and those pesky 1s that always pop up when assaulting terminators. its 10 points to reroll wounds, thats why i take them.
I think you're playing it wrong. Toxin sacs give poisoned 4+, when your strength is equal to or greater to their toughness you get a re-roll on that 4+ to wound roll.With adrenal glands, toxin sacs hurts it against anything t5 or less on the charge (.75 wounds per hit with toxin sacs vs .83 wounds per hit without).
In terms of the list in General, I think it's a good start. I like having tervigons in troops to make them scoring. Maybe you could find room for a Prime with lashwhip and bone swords?
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2010/10/23 22:34:18
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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hmm perhaps i am reading it wrong, i took it to mean i would never need more than a 4+ to wound, but could would on a 2/3+ if my str was high enough...
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2010/10/23 23:21:22
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Lord of the Fleet
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Nope, poison can only wound better if it says so on the profile
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2010/10/24 01:39:20
Subject: **1850 Tyranids for a new player**
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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oh that does suck then!! l2p noob lol thanks...
yea disregard the toxin sacs!
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