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Im looking to make a competitive list 1500,1850,2k points based around Jetbikes, Shinning Spears, Fire Dragons in Wave Serpents.

Ive been collecting for 8 years and have these models to choose from.
2 Farseers 1 being eldrad
6 Warlocks
Fuegan
Muargan Ru
Autarch on Jetbike

40 Rangers
10 Guardians
19 Dire Avengers
15 Jetbikes

39 Firedragons
9 Striking Scorpians
5 Wraithguard

9 swooping hawks
6 vipers

3 wraithlords
3 warwalkers
9 Grav Tanks. 1 Falcon Turret. 3 Fire Prism turrets. 5 wave serpant turrets. 3 nightspinner turrets.

List Ive made for 1500 Points-

HQ- 150
Autarch
Jetbike, Mandiblasters,Laser Lance

Troops-348,277

7 Jetbikes 2 Cannons
7 Jetbikes 2 Cannons

10 Dire Avengers, 120,47,110
Exarch, (12)(5)(15)
WaveSerpent, 2 Shuriken Cannons

Elite- 240(Firedragons), 345(Wave Serpents)
5 Firedragons
Waveserpent, 1 ERL
5 Firedragons
Waveserpent, 1 ERL
5 Firedragons
Waveserpent, 1 ERL

Fast Attack- 147
3 Singing Spears- 105
Exarch- StarLance Withdrawl

Total-1492

Im open to any advice. Im not sure how many fire dragons/jetbikes to bring.
Im not sure what to equip my wave serpents with.


Im also wondering what would be good to add to make the list 1850 and 2k.

-Thanks

I think a farseer, possibly on a jet bike themselves, is a must for your army. For 1850 etc you can just add one, but for 1500 this would need some list trimming.

Possibly go down to 5 dire avengers and drop 1/2 jet bikes as required?

Also, triple FD WS Squad is a bit much. But that's just my opinion.

phyrephly wrote:Also, triple FD WS Squad is a bit much. But that's just my opinion.

what do i add in place?


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Smitty0305 wrote:

phyrephly wrote:Also, triple FD WS Squad is a bit much. But that's just my opinion.

what do i add in place?

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Anyone else have input?

My feedback:

1) Take a Farseer on Jetbike. If you can, take 7-8 Warlocks on Jetbikes to accompany him. This unit is incredibly expensive, but if you keep Fortune on them, they're almost invincible.

2) Autarch is nice, but could be dropped if you need the points.

3) Give the Guardian Jetbike squads a Warlock with Embolden. Their big problem is the tendency to run away when things get tough, the Warlock helps negate this.

4) I'm not sure what the point costs on your DA Exarch mean. If it's Dual-Catapults+Bladestorm, you're good. Anything else should be changed. Also, try to give their WS a Brightlance, especially with my point #5 coming up... NOW

5) Drop 2 squads of Fire Dragons. 3 is total overkill at 1500pts. I'm also not 100% sure what ERL stands for, is it EML? If so, make it Shuriken Cannon or Scatter Laser? A Fire Dragon WS is going to be a prime target, keep it's points low.

6) Shining Spears (Singing Spears are the upgrade weapon for a Farseer or Warlock) are overpriced IMO. If you're set on using them (and they fit your theme, so I assume you are), I think your current loadout is the best.

7) You need some long range fire support. I'd suggest a dual Fire Prism, but you could try out a Falcon or even War Walkers. Although, to fit in your theme better, take some Vypers.

Grakmar wrote:My feedback:

1) Take a Farseer on Jetbike. If you can, take 7-8 Warlocks on Jetbikes to accompany him. This unit is incredibly expensive, but if you keep Fortune on them, they're almost invincible.

2) Autarch is nice, but could be dropped if you need the points.

3) Give the Guardian Jetbike squads a Warlock with Embolden. Their big problem is the tendency to run away when things get tough, the Warlock helps negate this.

4) I'm not sure what the point costs on your DA Exarch mean. If it's Dual-Catapults+Bladestorm, you're good. Anything else should be changed. Also, try to give their WS a Brightlance, especially with my point #5 coming up... NOW

5) Drop 2 squads of Fire Dragons. 3 is total overkill at 1500pts. I'm also not 100% sure what ERL stands for, is it EML? If so, make it Shuriken Cannon or Scatter Laser? A Fire Dragon WS is going to be a prime target, keep it's points low.

6) Shining Spears (Singing Spears are the upgrade weapon for a Farseer or Warlock) are overpriced IMO. If you're set on using them (and they fit your theme, so I assume you are), I think your current loadout is the best.

7) You need some long range fire support. I'd suggest a dual Fire Prism, but you could try out a Falcon or even War Walkers. Although, to fit in your theme better, take some Vypers.

So your saying I should drop 2 squads of firedragons for a Seer Jetbike Councill , and then add in some Heavy Support?
Id defantly do that but I dont have the models. Ill look into how to get them.
Thanks for the feedback.

Smitty0305 wrote:
So your saying I should drop 2 squads of firedragons for a Seer Jetbike Councill , and then add in some Heavy Support?
Id defantly do that but I dont have the models. Ill look into how to get them.
Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. I bought my army back when Mech was underpowered, so I have tons of Defender Guardians and Wraithlords, and not enough Jetbikes and WS. You can make a good army with your models, but to be "top tier", you'll have to go out and purchase more.

Yea I have 9 Grav tanks with 5 WS turrets, as well as all the jetbikes.

Just need that seer council.