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Currently my 2k point list is:

Asteroth - 220

Furioso dred - 170
Heavy flamer
blood talons
Drop pod

Furioso dred - 170
Heavy flamer
blood talons
Drop pod

Furioso dred - 170
Heavy flamer
blood talons
Drop pod

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
2xflamers

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
2xflamers

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
2xflamers

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
2xflamers

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
2xflamers

Land speeder - 60
MM + HF

Total - 1990

All Deepstriking in, all capable of popping tanks, moving fast for objectives, the dreds eat face, asteroth is there because i really like him xD
And the 2x flamers in every squad will mulch hordes before an onslaught of assaulting attacks.
What will make this list more efective?


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Obviously everything starts off and 2 dred drop near tanks with meltas built into the fist to try and nock down a tank or burn come troops

I run melta/flamer/infernus pistol in my assault squads. If you like Astorath that is okay but I think he is only 220 not 240. You could use a couple Sanguinary Priests.

Your right asteroth is 220 ill change the list it will now be 1990


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Yeh i see what you mean about the priests but in my games, my dred walks through my mates marines.. so having 3 of them is just nasty, and the priests just get targeted in combat and destroyed. and they are like 100 points each kitted with packs and wep

I would invest in some Death Company if I were you, especially since you're running Astorath. Drop one of your Assault Squads for a Death Company squad and have Astorath join up with them, since he has the rules of a normal Chaplain in addition to his global buffs he makes Death Company awesome. I would also drop one of your Furiosos for a DC Dreadnought.

I agree with both of BloodThirSTAR's points, you definitely should get some Sang Priests in there and I would recommend dropping the Land Speeder to help with that. I also think you need more Melta in your Assault Squads. I personally like to have my squads double up on weapons, but BloodThirSTAR's loadout is effective too.

EDIT: Your Priests should be put into your Assault Squads, that way you can allocate wounds away from them, as well as keep them out of direct CC.

How about dropping the speeder and one unit of assault marines. also dropping one dred, taking 3 sang priests, and a squad of honour guard for asteroth to join? put a priest in each unit of assault marines (except one) and changing out 1 flamer for a melta in each squad?


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Oh and i dont like DC dreds, and DC are extremly expensive when you give them packs


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How about this

Asteroth - 220

Furioso dred - 170
Heavy flamer
blood talons
Drop pod

Furioso dred - 170
Heavy flamer
blood talons
Drop pod

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
1 flamer
1 melta gun

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
1 flamer
1 melta gun

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
1 flamer
1 melta gun

10 Assault marines - 240
infernus pistol + PF on sargent
1 flamer
1 melta gun

10 Death company - 460
4 power fists
jump packs
1 hand flamer

Total 2000

Asteroth rides with the death company

Biggest problem with the new list is your drop pod situation. You will now have only 1 dreadnought on the table on turn 1.

I prefer Sanguinary Guard over Honour Guard to be honest, once you kit out Honour Guard to be similarly equipped to Sang Guard they end up being just as expensive, and the Sang Guard give you a 2+ right off the bat.

I know what you mean about expensive DC, but you could look into just a 5-man DC squad with power weapons and maybe a power fist or 2. Even just a DC combat squad with power weapons and a chaplain attached to them can do some serious damage. That should save you enough points to throw in the Priests as mentioned before.

Well, I'd use a full DoA army dropping the Pods.
Played an RTT at the weekend and my DoA army did quite well.

Thats what I run as well and I love it. I do have a love of dreadnoughts though, so I can understand his desire to put them in there. My current list does not have any dreadnoughts but that will change once I finally decide how I'm going to make a Stormraven and actually finish it.

Astorath is a great choice to run with a unit of Honor Guard:

Fearless
Reroll hits on the charge
Furious Charge
Feel No Pain
+1A (banner)

I prefer choppy HG as opposed to shooty HG. Sure you can spam meltaguns but more than two is a bit of overkill.

my death company unit that i put is alot of points, but with asteroth in there do you think they would perform? especially with the 4 power fists

I would make some major changes:

Astorath
honor guard - packs, champ w/ flamer, banner, 2 x dual lc, th+ss

2 priests with packs

10 RAS - sgt w/ hand flamer and pf, 2 x melta
10 RAS - sgt w/ hand flamer and pf, 2 x melta
10 RAS - sgt w/ hand flamer and pf, 2 x melta
10 RAS - sgt w/ hand flamer and pf, 2 x melta

7 VV - sgt w/ glaive, pf, th+ss

no armor, full on DoA with a squad that can effectively assault out of deep strike and a hammer unit that can apply the hurt.

2k on the nose.

Astrorath is a expensive HQ for so little benefits, only main thing is more Death Co which you're not taking - why not save points get a Reclusiarch who gives re-rolls to the Death Co as well?

Latest list only has two Pods which means a single Dreadnought will come down first turn and then get blown up, add to the fact it's a assault Dreadnought so will stand there and do nothing. Btw, locator beacons on the Pods - sure they work for Assault Squads too.

In all honesty the first list was better just ditch the expensive Death Co and Astrorath. You want re-rolls in combat get a Librarian with unleash rage as you can cast that all the time, if a Chaplain gets locked in combat they're just another body.

Nah the death company was someone elses idea. i want to keep astorath for fluff reasons because i really like him im going to ditch the death Co try keep 3 dreds, i might take out some assault marines tho and add more vanguard vets with power weps or something.

Definately drop the Death Co they're not worth it; too expensive.

Why Astrorath? What can he do a normal Chaplain can't?

Vanguard with a thunder hammer for striking vehicles and auto shaking them.

What can asteroth do that a chaplain cant? he can be my favourite character from BA? he makes those pesky terminators reroll there SS invunerables and he strikes in iniative order with a str6 power weapon.. that what he can do :p any other suggestions?

For 265 points you make enemies re-roll invulnerable saves...that's not good :(

No 220 points and i like astorath as a character not just because of his game utility, remember its a game about Fun and he really utilizes that for me. thats why i take him :0

Is it Dante whose 265? Well fun is eye of the beholder

mercer wrote:Is it Dante whose 265? Well fun is eye of the beholder

I don't think anyone's 265, though I don't have my codex on me. Sanguinor's 275, Meph's 250. Think they're the most expensive.

Anyway, OP, if you're going DoA, Vanguard are a must.