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Made in nl
Disbeliever of the Greater Good




Hello everybody, I posted the begining of this treat in "Itroductions" but this is the right place to put it.
Im a member on www.advancedtautactica.com and this WIP treat is running on there. so I recommend checking it out there!
http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?t=16530
But to reach as much people as possible the updates will be posted here as well!

Enjoy!

In a world were there is only War you must kill to survive. You must develop skills in order to became the hunter instead of the hunted. It was this simple concept that sparked my imagination. Although the Tau is a young race, there were pioneers in the art of war. Veterans that would become Icons for the following generations of warriors.

"In a landscape torn by endless battles, an engine sounds rumbling in the distance. Vibrating the surroundings with a roaring low-frequency. And a high pitch tune, screaming trough the valley as a Dark shadow skims over the vast lands. Enemies would run and hide only by hearing it. A long body, build for speed. A glimpse of 2 small wings pointing slightly downwards.
A one-man vehicle only earned by the greatest of hunters: The "O Mont'korar". They are build for only 1 thing: "Search and Destroy". A warrior that earned a "O Mont'korar" will be given the tittle of: "O Y'eldi Mont'yr" and is considerate one of the highest honers a Tau warrior can achieve."







This is the original sketch, updated along with the progress I made in the last few months. A one man Tau combat ship. A long slim body for speed, 2 wings for stabilisation. The ship is powered by an new type of engine that runs on a new mineral. The engineers had 4 things in mind while developing it: Speed; it needs to be able of outrunning almost everything. Hovering; it needs to be able to hover in mid-air and engage all weapon systems. Shield; it needs to sustain heavy fire without a second engine. Stealth: although it doesn't have a cloaking device the ship can go as silent as the crave and kill from the shadow's. The engine is located in the middle of the hall. Air is sucked in trough the belly underneath. This model has 2 heavy burst cannons witch is standard equipment on any "O Mont'Korar". The wings have a build-in SMS rocket system. Tau and technology become 1 because of the build-in Drone that allows for precision movement at high and low speeds. The ship will almost "feel" what his driver wants to do next. The main Drone sensor is located on the top and feeds all battlefield information directly to the control screen of the "O Y'eldi Mont'yr". And there's a second Drone sensor located under the tip of the nose of the craft. This is the real "Search and destroy" aspect of the the Drone computer. This weapons guide system helps his driver to locate and terminate his prey. The 4 shield generators on the side are powered by the same engine and generates a strong forcefield. Also there's room for an EMP and smoke grenade launcher for tactical warfare. This baby is a personal battle cruiser.

I started this Project in march 2009 and its evolved into what you see here now. This treat will follow, if you guys like it, my work in progress from the first cut till the last brush of paint. I'm planning on making a full Diorama for this, complete with terrain and dynamic pose.

dimensions: 5 cm wide by the seat. hall 3 cm wide. full length: 28 cm. Wingspan: 14 cm. (a tau fire warrior fits perfectly within the seat)

I hope that you like my first project
I'm very curious on what you think/like/don't like/tips/ is this a cool mini or not? :eek:
Feel free to ask me questions.

Daan
ps: I left out 1 aspect of the design. This I will unveil later when the time is right. If you like this concept, then you are going to love thís.

I remember starting with the Skeleton the same night I drew up the concept. It was early in the morning when I finally went to bed.
The following pictures are from the first steps of the project. I needed a soled base to work on so I came up with a plan to build the structural skeleton. I will be building the ship entirely out of plastic card. This is going to be a challenge for me because this is going to be the first time working with the stuff. And as I said before, I'll jump in the deep when I start something new. Exploring ways and new ways to get the pieces I need to assemble the hole thing is an adventure and I'm learning new skills every day. Also I'll be adding some Original Tau and Warhammer bits, as well as anything that I think is suitable to get the job done.There will be a description with each picture on what and how I did the particular piece. Some of my methods you will do differently, this way just worked for me best. All right, here we go: Skeleton.


I drew a rough outline on plastic card and cut it out with scissors and using a sharp hobby knife. Very tricky business and a lot of work.


I needed 2 of these pieces. I placed the first piece all sanded and finished up on top of another piece of plastic card and glued them together.
This way I could sand down the second piece to match the first. The next step was to drill 2mm holes. I chose the holes location in a way they wouldn't get in the way of further construction. And if they would I could cut out 1 or 2 without damaging the structural integrity.


Next was getting the 2 separated to never to touch each other again. And voilà. 2 identical pieces with perfect aligned holes.Next I got myself 13 pieces of pipe of 1 cm long to put in the holes and hold the 2 together.

Finished product:




With this Skeleton I could get started. Its exactly 1,2cm wide. This way it would be easier to work with pre-cut existing plastics of all shapes and sizes. Next up: top and side panels.

Hey Shas'vre Shavaun, Well thank you my friend. I was hoping you'd like it I'm familiar with your work and you are quite the modeller your self mate. You read my little description on the "O Mont'Korar" veteran one man battleship I see? Its nice of you to say, I put some effort in that so its nice to hear its appreciated :smile: Yeah, I wanted to have a ship that not just looks cool, but also a design that considers what a ship needs and I incorporated that in the concept.

For the, what I call the "glue-on-action-explosion-duplicate-twin-effect-technique" it was new for me too. I guess I used just the right amount of plastic glue on the right places. And of course sanded the 2 pieces down, straight, sharp and equal. And yes, you judged right. 1 mm thick plastic card

Funny this is. I had no Idea there was a vehicle length limitation. Haha. Well, to be honest, the reason the combatship is this "big", is because its more in scale with the firewarrior veteran that is operating it. If you take an Eldar yet-bike for example, those look like a little tricycles to me. If I was a warrior with a yet bike, I would want to have something I feel save on, and not afraid every little Ork can shoot me down with a handshoota.. And yeah, I imagine and understand if your a gamer and you bring tanks as big as the board people are not going to be pleased I guess? But since this is going to be a display Diorama it just needs to be bad-ass!

-- -- --

Al right. Side panels time. I wanted them to be not just on a 90 degree angle. No, I wanted a more dynamic flow and curve. So this is what I did:


I took measurements from the left top, all the way to the tip. Since I'm a perfectionist I want to do everything as slick and smooth as possible. Especially with the aesthetic of the Tau I think it's essential to be as accurate as you can. I Took the measurements on to the plasticcard and cut them out with scissors. I didn't want to use the "glue-on-duplicate" technique because I didn't want to have to sand to much. Instead I just did the process twice.


I drew on lines were the 3 ridges needed to come and cut them trough with scissors. Sanded them down with a little curve and placed a piece of plasticcard behind them, leaving a rim of 1mm between one another.


Then cut a space were the side panel would overlap the base of the wing.
(and added the first little detail, quite nice touch aye? they broke off on me, while further working on the engine heat exhaust.. ill fix it later )
The hole for the engine heat exhaust in the middle of the hall was 1 of the hardest parts of the project and it took me quite some time.
First determinant were the hole needed to be and very carefully, trying not to damage the rest of the surrounding plastic, cut it out with a sharp hobby knife. These panels are very important because they'll cover 1/3 of the hole ship. I think they turned out to be pretty nice.




The pieces of plasticcard that holds the 3 pieces together are less wider then upper parts of the panel. This little line of space, about 2mm wide, is the place were the panel is going to be glued to the rest of the model. You'll see what I mean later on.

As you may probably have noticed in the pictures, the side panels have a curve. (the hall will look like this: (""") instead of: [""] if you catch my drift? I bended the panels horizontally every 1/3 following the top line to the tip. This way the ship will feel more dynamic and streamlined.

little preview? :eek:



Top:

So far so good, the side panels are looking like I wanted them to. On to the top. This piece was going to be easy. I really got in to it now and got myself some new supply's. My first cutting mat, and some new tools + material. I discovered a hobby store and I was like a little kid in a candy store. I took a piece of plasticcard (really getting tiered typing "piece" and "plasticcard" :crafty: ) haha.
Well, I took 2 pieces of plasticcard and cut it 2,2cm wide, this was essential because this way it would all fit perfectly on the skeleton.
The rims on the side panels were going to flow over the "top" creating that familiar Tau feeling. I'll show you.


Of course made sure that the pieces were well sanded, sharp and the measurements were correct.


Glue, glue and glue



Top view:

bottom view:

Rims detail:

As you can see I put pieces of curved plastic on the side to give it the "round flow" im looking for. I think on the "how" its officious right? measured the length from rim to rim and cut curved pieces accordingly.

Alright, thats all for now.
tell me what you think of my progress so far.

Daan

ps:

Hope you can see what it is. It shows structural reinforcement between the 2 first layers. Because there is exactly 1cm between them it was fairly easy to put 2 0.5cm pieces together and put it in. its now soled as a kroots skull.

"The big cut"

But first:

Sub projects of the "O Mont'Korar":
(random)

-Top Drone sensor
-Top logo
-Nose
-S&D bottom Drone sensor
-Wings
-2 heavy burst cannons
-Bottom
-Belly air vent
-4 shield generators
-4 engine exhausts on the back
-Propulsion exhaust
-Seat
-cockpit/screen

Roughly the "Sub-projects" still to come. some of them are already under way, some of them are already finished.
I'm now at the point I need to finish 1 before I can continue with the rest. So I thought I'll show you what I have bin working lately.

With the "Top" and the "side panels" finished I wanted to get started on the seat. I came to realise that it would be much easier working with the skeleton if I could actually reach the "seat" and the "cockpit/screen" :crafty:

So I decided to cut the "Skeleton" up into 2 pieces. This way I could reach the 2 fairly easy and glueing them back together wasn't going to be a problem. Ill show you what I mean: :roll:


"the Seat"

This turned out to be a very fun sub project. Learned a lot from this. to be honest with you, I think it looks really cool and just the way I wanted it to be.

As you can see in the concept sketch, the seat is designed to be comfortable. The "O Y'eldi Mont'yr" is sitting in a laid-back position, with his feet (feet?) resting side to side. I wanted to create a seat that wouldn't feel like a little tricycle, but rather like a big motorcycle.

I used multiple layers of plastic, greenstuff and 4 existing pieces to create this seat. Ill show you how I cracked this sub project:



I started with the skeleton part of the seat. Don't have a accurate picture of this (yes, I sometimes get into the flow and forget making step-by-step pictures) but I think you guys can clearly see what I have done.






Took the shape of the "seat" and put it on my new material 5mm thick plasticcard. Applied the "glue-on-duplicate-technique" so I would end up with 2 identical pieces and glued them right on the "skeleton" (used an electrical saw as experiment because there's NO way I was getting trough this 5mm with a knife. Worked pretty good, although the heat of the saw going up and down made the plastic melt and harden again within seconds, so there was a lot of cutting and sanding involved.... Haven't got the technique down as good as I want, but its going better every time.




Then took a piece of 1,2mm plasticcard and curved it using a scissors and discovered that you can bent and curve the 1mm card fairly easy.
slapped that on and now I had a very good base to do some greenstuffing on.


So that was the first layer. Its time for the next. Used the electric saw with the "glue-on-duplicate-technique" again end made these.


They were going to fit on the "seat" like this:


As you can see I greenstuffed a bit between were the curved plastic meets the first 5mm layers. This way it looks They're flowing into each other.

But before I was able to glue the second layer on, I needed to make the 4 shield generators. These things were on my mind for quite some time now and I finally got all the pieces together.

As you can see the panels have a curve outwards.


"4 shield generators"

Alright, these things were going to give a very distinguished look to the model and I had a few idea's for doing them.
But then I found 2 separate pieces who were perfect for the job! ill take you trough it real quick.

These were the ingredients:





Some greenstuff to hold in place. use this technique if I need to make sure something really isn't go anywhere.




GS has quite nice "sticky" quality's.



since I only have 3 of the shield generators I needed to make 1 myself. I tried using GS moulds, but they kept failing me. Soo, I got my self this silicone stuff. (don't remember the name, but could look it up if some ones needs it, I'm sure it's German)
You can shape it and make imprints easy. Once hardened it stays flexible so its easy to get the GS out again. really nice stuff and it works perfect.




Last step: I wanted to put the grew think in the hole of the black thing.. but they weren't evenly big.. hm, that was a problem.
then it hit me... If I could just... would it work?




would it really be this...

easy?

yes it was haha. good times, good times.

end result:



Before we begin with the next step: I'm posting all these step-by-step pictures so you guys can see what and how I have done some things and so other modellers may get inspired. I'm a picture guy; I like pictures. Hope it's not boring

Ok, Here we go again!

"seat" (part 2)

I was trying to find the step-by-step pictures for this, but they're not on my computer nor camera any more..
So, for this ill show you the finished product right away.






There you have it. An Greenstuffed seat. took an hour or 2 to shape it the way I wanted to be. then after letting it dry for an hour carved the little lines you see that indicate the segments with my hobby knife. (also fitted the fire-warrior on it while it was still "wet" so the seat not just looks good, be he can actually sit on it :roll: ) (pictures are not going down in size on the site, don't know why not)

We're now seconds away from the "seat" unveiling. This is something I want you guys to see and to hear what you have the say! :eek:

But first:

"4 shield generators"
the mounting

I was breaking my head about this one too. They needed to be straight and centred! but how?
then, of course! Greenstuff is my best friend! :evil:



On they go!


On goes the greenstuff! I didn't have to do this very clean (although I really wanted to) because this was going to be covered by plastic card.



Took some time to position them properly, but the GS gave me enough flexibility!
(you can see the "top" and "panels" taped in place and the "heat exhaust in the panel sticking out )


Second pare.

Finished product:


Next up:

"seat" part 3, the sides, nice and curved.

To make all the layers come one, I needed to do some good sculpting. Found out using my fingers I could get good results. I needed a really smooth serves with nice rounding and curves. This is what I did:

ah, but first: remember the second layer? cut away the end a bit, and glued it right on.




some good GS snake on there and sculpting I went.

Finished product:

mostly used my fingers. The big issue was getting the 2 equal!

Alright, here we go.

Next up:
get ready there are a lot of pictures coming, took like 20 of them to show you the almost finished "Seat".
I always like to see figures from all angles, so that's what I did.

I proudly present the (almost) finished "Seat"
Now follows a sequence of pictures featuring the "Seat" no further work is being done.

Ofcourse first-off: The man of the hour, the "O Y'eldi Mont'yr"
























(Some pictures without the operator














And at last the "seat" together with the "skeleton"+"top" and the operator sitting comfortable. (bad quality, buts just a sneak






Aaaaah! the seat is up! finally I can show you what I have bin working on for quite some time!
I learned a lot from this sub project and I'm glad it isn't finished yet.

You can see the sculpts I did on it quite good now I think? (or do we need more pictures haha)
Getting the "4 shield generators" in place was a pain but doable. It was very nice to see when I put the 2 layers up they really paid off.
In one of the pictures you can clearly see the "skeleton" inside the "seat".

Alright guys, Tell me what you think how this turned out.

Cheers,
Daan

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/10/27 18:48:42


 
   
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This looks like a ton of work. But its awesome to see it all come together. You skills are very impressive.

See pics of my Orks, Tau, Emperor's Children, Necrons, Space Wolves, and Dark Eldar here:


 
   
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Amazing :O

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Amazing. When I opened this thread, I thought; " oh, nice, he posted a concept picture..." As I scrolled down I realized you had actually started building the bloody thing.
I am extremely intersted in seeing this project to the end.
When its done, are you planning on casting an making molds? Fielding 3 of these would be badass, (or three squads of them....).
Had you worked out the points cost for it?
What colours are you planning?
Soooo looking forward to updates here....

 
   
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Dude, this is awesome. What are your plans for this exactly? A super special phiranah? Or some kind of custom rules? (or maybe a hammerhead? I can totally see a veteran combatship being armed with a railgun )

I like the step-by-step process, showed real forethought.

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5 star post!
Great how you show each step - thank you.

Check out my gallery here
Also I've started taking photos to use as reference for weathering which can be found here. Please send me your photos so they can be found all in one place!! 
   
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Great work can't wait to see the finished project. Way Cool.


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How did you Make up the name? sounds similar to some of the titles in a Book series i read.

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While I'll admit it is a very interesting concept and I deffinitly want to see it completed I can't help but look at it and think "Ok so the Tau have tried to copy a Dark Eldar Reaver mixed with a Halo Banshee" it's great looking so far and I'm sure it will turn out great. I guess personally it just dosen't really fit the Tau look, I mean it does but it dosen't.

Anyway don't mind me you just keep on with what you're doing great job so far

 
   
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WH...du...jes..fr...dude...that is crazy sweet.
0-over9000 in 1.2 seconds?

This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
 
   
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I have to agree with Imbad, especially since this has potential to be used as one of the units mentioned in the new Dark Eldar Book (havent seen the book myself, but I've heard mention of units that are fliers and apparently have no model). As for the model itself, it's absolutely stunning. Cant wait till it's done. =D

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I think it's the way the pilot sits that gives it a DE quality. The rest certainly has the Tau asthetic down.

 
   
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Ohio

To me, it looks like a cuttlefish



And that would, indeed, coincide with the whole undersea-creatures theme the tau has.

Somehow, though, the name "Cuttlefish" simply doesn't have the same draw as pirahna or devilfish.

This is extremely impressive, btw. Well done.

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dude you rock!!!!
awesome skills on display.


 
   
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"..with ceramic doublehead overdrive...and anti lock brakes."

'Hey, Tetsuo!, it's too much for a kid like you'.

'...I can ride it!'

Wow!

In my mind it looked too big, considering what a battle-suit scales up to be...

But WOW!

   
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love the concept and build, i think though personally i thought it was going to be smaller...
   
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Jayden63:

Its a big project and I have bin working on it since march 2009.
thank you very much for the compliment. but im still learning!

origarmi chicken:
:O thanks!!

worldwarme:
Hahaha, good stuff. Yes. when I drew up the concept I wanted to start right away! started on the skeleton that same night! Im glad you like it mate!

yes, since some people have said to me if I was thinking about casting I started thinking of casting it! if you have 3 of them cruising next to each other it would be sooo coool! couldn't agree more! Well I haven't had the time to find out how "casting" works, but ill be getting in to that asap! the ship is quite big, 30cm long. Im not a gamer myself so I have no idea what the point cost would be. idea's? The colour theme I haven't decided on yet.. thinking of doing a full Diorama for this, so Im thinking of doing a snow landscape and a white camo theme for my tau. what you think? 1 last thing. if you're planning of following this treat I recommend following it here: http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?t=16530 cheers

starbomber109:
Hey man, thanks! I appreciate the compliment! It's going to be a full-scale Diorama. so its going to be made with extreme detail and a killer paintjob! for the rules I wouldn't really know. a super special piranha would be cool! hehe, make me a sketch of your veteran combatship with heavy weaponry if you like!!! would love to see what you come up with! and thanks, its my way of giving my creation a learning aspect for those who want to learn scratch-building! be sure to check the original treat!

bubber:
hey man, thanks for the 5 stars. hope you like it!! yes, its a tutorial on how I've done it too!
make sure you check the original treat!

thesilverback:
thanks mate! its going to be sooo cool when its finished! cheers!

Matrim:
hey mate, its funny you ask me this. The names are based on existing Tau words. you know what they mean? and what book series? cheers, Daan

Warboss Imbad Ironskull:
thanks for your way of looking a it. its a little bit of both I guess.. but were in a world were everything already has bin done its hard to come up with something that is completely new right? I hope in the end you will think it does fit in the tau empire!

Sanctjud:
whhahahaha! thanks man, I laughed there for a second! over9000nnnnndddd!! thanks! make sure to check for updates!!

MechaEmperor7000:
yes, I can imagine it has a familiar feel to it mate. thanks for the compliment!!!

Breotan:
Yes, I can imagine it reminds you of something else, after all I used a hole new way of positioning the operator! thanks, I hope I get the "Tau feeling" in the end completely!

Nu11nV01D:
haha, funny man! yes It could well be named after that fish. I hadn't thought of choosing a name out of the sea-world man, haha. I made up the name to describe what the ship it. have you looked it up? and thanks mate! cant wait to finish it!

shingouki:
Thanks mate!!

Mr. Burning:
hahaha! you read the little description I see?
"..but dady, I want one! please!!.." "eat your vegetables son."
yes, Its more in scale with the scale of a normal firewarrior. if you take a eldar yet-bike, they look like little tricycles to me and I rather want to be seen in this ride! Its a fan-made vehicle and its going to be a diorama. and, thanks!

Khargrim:
Thanks mate. its a fun project really. and the build is coming along nicely! yes, I have heard some pll saying its a bit big, but imho its more in scale with the normal units and warhammer vehicles are a bit so small!





   
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This is so monstrously awesome, I want one for my Tau army that will be when the codex is redone.

Keep up the amazing work.

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Jacksonville Florida

Instead of a cuddlefish IF the name is changed I think it should be called like a Pike or a Gar assault bike or something. Both of which are long fish that are fast and deadly (at least to other fish although Alligator Gar have been known to attack people). That's just me though

As far as fitting into the Tau Empire I can see it fitting but if I was the one making it I would tweak the fluff so it fit better. Your fluff says that veterans are given the vehicle, except Tau veterans are given battlesuits to pilot. No matter how cool looking the vehicle is it still won't be able to match the versatility of a battlesuit in fluff so I can't see veterans choosing it over a Crisis.

What I would say is that the Fire Caste pilots of these vehicles are known for being particularly agressive which makes them perfect pilots for the craft given it's role in combat.

And trust me I know what you mean about everything being done (almost). I've created some concepts for some Tau vehicles that are 100% inspired off of vehicles from other armies. You just gotta do the same thing in a differant way which is what you have done

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