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Hello all,

I'm completely new to these forums, so I hope its alright to start posting here. Anyway, something thats a little bit of a debate with my friends is that Banshees with a Banshee Mask start an assault at Initiative 10. But what happens when they come face to face with Tyranid Lash-Whips? I'm a Tyranid player (maybe a little Biased), and I think, considering the Eldar rules don't specifically say that the Banshee Mask will cancel out all initiative bonuses (only those from cover and grenades), that Banshees against Lash-Whips will be striking at Initiative 1. So, I'd love some opinions, I am however pretty sure that those pesky Banshees will be striking last, but please prove me wrong with something I haven't seen!

I was wandering that as well and I think that they'd cancel each other out

That was actually the consensus with my friends, for most of the time I think I'm just hopeful that I'll be able to hit before they do with their pesky weapons. It's going to cause hell when I start playing against my friend who collects Eldar unless I get a few opinions!

if following the faq, I believe the masks strike at 10 still due to the faq stating it affects base init, not modified

I honestly think they cancel out and both characters hit at base Initiative value....which means Banshees hit first. Although the rules for banshee masks do say that they cancel initiative modifiers such as cover and grenades, maybe it just leaves out other examples cuz there are too many to list

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Welcome to dak dak! I have no idea... but if you ask in the YMDC forum i am sure you will get some good answers.

Thanks for the 'Welcomes' I feel quite welcome!
That's probably a good idea, I think I will post it in the YMDC forums

Hi, I'm the Eldar player Sherlock reffers to, I'm in agreement with Headshot that the two effects cancel each other but if the masks cancel ALL Initiative mods why doesn't it say so? I mean true there are alot to mention but isn't it easier to say all mods rather than just saying cover and grenades? ( although I am hoping that my banshees don't hit Intiative 1, that's the last thing they need otherwise )

But it's definately something to think about

I just reposted this in YMDC, you might want to go look at the responses there... when they start coming!

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