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So at my local game shop, this guy was showing off his new Dark Eldar, and his new codex (which consisted of scanned pages that had been printed out.) So we had a friendly 1500 pt game.

My Dark Goats, (my marines w/t beastmen heads) army list went as such.

HQ

Sammael, Master of the Ravenwing


Elites

Death Wing Tactical Terminators

Dreadnoughts
- Twin Linked Lascannon

Scout Squad
-Power Sword
-Plasma Pistol
-Melta Bombs

Troops

Tactical Squad
-Power Sword
-Melta Bombs
-Melta Gun
-Missile Launcher

Tactical Squad
-Melta Bombs
-Melta Gun
-Missile Launcher

Fast Attack

Ravenwing Attack Squadron
-5 Bikers
-Power Sword

Ravenwing Support Squadron (Landspeeder)
-Heavy Bolter

Heavy Support

Predator
-Twin Linked LasCannon
-Heavy Bolter Sponsons.


His Dark Eldar army list was as such (forgive me if I mess up wargear, I don't have the best memory)

HQ

Archeon w/t Agonizer and a blaster(?)

Elites

ManDrakes (5)

Incubi (5) w/t Raider

Troops

Warrior Squad (10) w/t Raider

Warrior Squad (10) w/t Raider

Warrior Squad (10) w/t Raider

Warrior Squad (10) w/t Raider

Warrior Squad (10) w/t Raider

heavy

Talos

Ravager



So yeah, it was a stereotypical Dark Eldar Army, Archeon joined up with the Incubi in their Raider.

We deploy, Scouts and Mandrakes are really close to each other (as in like 12" and I have no idea how this happened) the Ravenwing scout to be a bit close to the middle of the battlefield, I set up my Tactical Marines in some ruins with the Predator and Dreadnought on the left side of the field, Sammael started the game next to the tactical squads, and finally my Deathwing Terminators are in reserve. He sets up his army in a line of raiders with the ravager on the left and the talos on the right.

Turn 1. I Claim Initiative and the first thing I do is send my scouts after those wanna be Inuyasha Drizzts (that the guy made himself), and sure enough, the scouts are in range and pop off a few rounds with their Bolt Pistols and Plasma pistols that kills one of them, I decided not to assault them. Ravenwing gets to the middle of the ruins, and Sammael bolts across the field and gets about 2/3rds to were the Ravenwing is position. The Predator and Dreadnought slowly move down the left side of the field.

Turn 1 (dark eldar). Oh jesus christ I have never seen any army move across a field like that. Raiders everywhere! The only reason all 7 raiders didn't completely surround my Ravenwing was because of the lack of room. Splinter Rifles shot up my Ravenwing, killing 2 of them. the Talos and Ravager brought up the rear.

Turn 2. SAMMAEL INTO THE FRAY, He fires off his plasma cannon wrecking a paper-kite...I mean raider and the Warriors jump out. The Deathwing Terminators Deep strike successfully next to the Ravenwing due to the Homing Beacon. The Terminators opened fired on the Warriors and killed 4 of them. I move the Tactical Squads forward, the Predator has a clear shot and wrecks the Ravager with the Twin-linked Lascannon, the Dreadnought wabbles towards the melee to help the terminators. The Ravenwing Bikers and landspeeder open fire on the warriors and finish them all off. The Scouts and Mandrakes get into melee combat, the Sgt kills another Mandrake with his plasma pistol and then the scouts charge into close combat and finish them off.

Turn 2. (Dark Eldar) the Raiders start circling around my Marines still opening fire with their splinter rifles, a RavenWing Biker is killed and a Dark Lance takes out the Landspeeder. The Archeon's Raider moves slowly towards the fray. The Talos hover towards the Predator tank.

Turn 3. Sammael takes out another Raider with his Plasma Cannon, the Dreadnought has LOS on a Raider and pops it with his Lascannon, the Predator Opens fire on the Talos dealing a wound with his Lascannon and once again with a heavy bolter round. The Terminators Open fire with their storm bolters and kill 4 warriors, then charge in for the assault the Dark Eldar Warriors delt a few blows but their daggers couldn't scratch the terminator armor, retaliation with power swords and power fists landing a total of 7/15 attacks, the Terminators wrecked the warriors. The Scout Squad moves from the ruin towards the main fray as do the tactical terminators.

Turn 3. (Dark Eldar) one raider turns around and heads towards the Tactical Squads, didn't really have to MOVE so much as turn around and fire the Dark Lance that look out a Marine. Back in the fray the warriors that recently had their raiders blown up open fire at my Ravenwing as did the other two Raiders who manage to kill them off with their Dark Lances. The Archeon and his crew slowly move towards the fray firing the Raider's Dark Lance that missed a terminator. The Talos still continues to move towards the predator.

Turn 4. Sammael Fires his plasma cannon at the warriors and kills 3, followed by the terminators opening fire and assaulting them, and finishing them off. The Tactical Squads move forward and pop the Raider with a melta gun and finishing the warriors off with a volley of bolter fire and a Frag Missile. The Predator still bombards the Talos with heavy bolter fire and lascannon fire. The Scouts move towards the fray and have reached the outskirts of the ruins. The Dread couldn't do much because he was blocked by terminators and buildings on either side.

Turn 4. (Dark Eldar), The Archeon finally bolts into the fray, jumping out of the raider with the help of nets or something, and charges my Terminator Squad. the whole assault was brutal and short, all 5 Terminators were killed by the Archeons Agonizer and the Incubi's Power Weapons. The Raiders still opened fire on Sammael, and he was wounded by a Dark Lance.

Turn 5. Sammael fires his Plasma Cannon at the Dark Eldar Archeons and the blast wounded the Archeon and killed two incubi. The Dreadnought still in the ally had LOS on a Raider and busted it with his lascannon. The Predator CONTINUES TO FIRE at the Talos and finally kills it with a few lucky rolls. The Tactical Squads move forward into the killing zone. The Scouts arrive at the same time as the tactical squads and manage to fire off at the Raider with the plasma pistol, but it only shook up the crew.

Turn 5. (Dark Eldar) The Archeon runs towards the tactical squads. the non-shaken raider turns around and fires at the tactical squad with the dark lance and splinter weapons kill 1 marine, the splinter weapons couldn't seem to pierce the power armor.

Turn 6. Sammael fires his plasma cannon at the archeon, and lands shot that only catches the archeon, who is still standing after the hit. The Scouts get in range and pop the shaken raider with a melta bomb, then open fire on the raiders with their bolt and plasma pistols killing 3/10 and then charging in and kill off the rest with a few (REALLY) lucky rolls, 1 scout was killed in combat. the predator turns around and starts heading for an opening big enough for it to fit in. The Dread moves out of the alley. The Tactical Squads pop the last raider and open fire on the warriors killing 4.

Turn 6.(Dark Eldar) the Archeon jumps into melee combat with the Tactical Squads and unleashing a can of whoop-ass upon them. in total the tactical squad took a beating of 4 casualties and didn't even manage to land a hit against his ws of 7. The Warriors opened fire on the Scout Squad and manage to kill 2 of them.

Turn 7. Sammael, the Dreadnought, and the two scouts finish off the remaining warriors with a volley of fire. The tactical squad gets hammered in melee combat and the are then completely finished off.

Turn 7. (Dark Eldar) The Archeon and his Retinue are all that is left, they charge the 2nd tactical squad and manage to kill 4 Marines, the sgt manages to land a hit with his power sword killing 1 Incubi, leaving 1 Incubi and the Archeon left.

Turn 8. The beat down continues and the final Incubi is killed. the Archeon still dodging blows and continued to kill marines left and right (3), with only 3 marines left I had the remaining Dark Goats Circle him.

Turn 8. (Dark Eldar) the Archeon murders the last tactical marines.

Turn 9. Sammael finishes off the Archeon with the Plasma Cannon.




In review.

I should of tried to get the Ravenwing out of the fray, even with their T 4(5) they still weren't a match for THAT much fire.

Archeon is scary in melee combat, I was dumb founded that they were able to kill all 5 terminators in a single assault.

Raiders seem to work like Ork Wartrukks, you can destroy them with a simple high power weapon, but aslong as they get you close enough they have done their job.

Talos probably would of wrecked my Predator if I hadn't continuously barrage it with lascannon and heavy bolter fire.

I think that having a few squad of 20 warriors would of been better than multiple squads of 10 in raiders.


All in all dark eldar would of probably beaten me if this was an objective claiming mission with their fast moving vehicles.

Do you have any pictures of your army? Sounds like a cool concept.

Reecius wrote:Do you have any pictures of your army? Sounds like a cool concept.

Well no, I do not have a camera, but I have pictures from Goatboy's blog who inspired me to make my army. Mine have different colored fur, a combination of Brown and White, their armor is also Green rather than Red.

Paragus wrote:
Turn 4. ...The Tactical Squads move forward and pop the Raider with a melta gun and finishing the warriors off with a volley of bolter fire and a Frag Missile.
.......

Turn 6. Sammael fires his plasma cannon at the archeon, and lands shot that only catches the archeon, who is still standing after the hit.....

....The Scouts get in range and pop the shaken raider with a melta bomb, then open fire on the raiders with their bolt and plasma pistols killing 3/10 and then charging in and kill off the rest with a few (REALLY) lucky rolls,...

Turn 4. I guess one Tactical Squad pops the Raider and the other Tactical Squad shoots at the, now disembarked, Warriors, right?

Turn 6. I can understand if he chooses to take the hit on the Archeon (assuming he has a Shadow Field or something), but it sounds like you played it like he HAD to take the hit as he was the only one under the blast marker....which isn't correct of course.

Turn 6. (part 2) It sounds like the Scouts assaults the Raider (popping it with a Melta Bomb), travels back in time to the Shooting Phase and then target the, now disembarked, Warriors, killing a few......and then assault them (having arrived at the Assault Phase once again?
This strangeness made me think about the quoted turn 4-thing.


It is most likely just me reading it wrong, but you never know.

Steelmage99 wrote:

Paragus wrote:
Turn 4. ...The Tactical Squads move forward and pop the Raider with a melta gun and finishing the warriors off with a volley of bolter fire and a Frag Missile.
.......

Turn 6. Sammael fires his plasma cannon at the archeon, and lands shot that only catches the archeon, who is still standing after the hit.....

....The Scouts get in range and pop the shaken raider with a melta bomb, then open fire on the raiders with their bolt and plasma pistols killing 3/10 and then charging in and kill off the rest with a few (REALLY) lucky rolls,...

Turn 4. I guess one Tactical Squad pops the Raider and the other Tactical Squad shoots at the, now disembarked, Warriors, right?

Turn 6. I can understand if he chooses to take the hit on the Archeon (assuming he has a Shadow Field or something), but it sounds like you played it like he HAD to take the hit as he was the only one under the blast marker....which isn't correct of course.

Turn 6. (part 2) It sounds like the Scouts assaults the Raider (popping it with a Melta Bomb), travels back in time to the Shooting Phase and then target the, now disembarked, Warriors, killing a few......and then assault them (having arrived at the Assault Phase once again?
This strangeness made me think about the quoted turn 4-thing.


It is most likely just me reading it wrong, but you never know.

for Turn 4. yes, one tactical squad popped it and the 2nd shot at the warriors.

turn 6. I think the player wanted to keep an Incubi so he allocated a wound to the archeon.

turn 6. pt 2, I am just a bad writer and it I herped the derp. I ment to say they shot at it in the shooting phase. popped the raider with the melta bomb., that killed a few in the disembarking attempt (if that is the rule for troops jumping out of a wrecked vehicle)

Cool battle, but you can't destroy a transport and shoot at its occupants with the same squad in the same turn.

CommissarCandlestick wrote:Cool battle, but you can't destroy a transport and shoot at its occupants with the same squad in the same turn.

Yeah, I know that. I'm just a terrible writer.

It sounds like the DE player was too eager to come to close grips with you. He should probably spent some time at range picking of things like the dred and pred. Staying away might have helped against the DS with beacon termies getting easy shots.

It also sounds like he didn't give the raiders either night shields or flicker fields, which is rather important since he didn't have much else in the way of anti tank.

Doesnt the plasma cannon instant kill pointy-ears, or is the archon t4 in the new book.

Sounds like a fun game, although I too was hoping for pictures of your goats, I myself have also done a couple of space goats for my chaos.

haizelhoff wrote:Doesnt the plasma cannon instant kill pointy-ears, or is the archon t4 in the new book.

Sounds like a fun game, although I too was hoping for pictures of your goats, I myself have also done a couple of space goats for my chaos.

If I recall the Archeon is T3 but has Eternal Warrior.

Archon doesn't have access to Eternal Warrior so taking that Plasma Cannon hit was a bit risky.

Powerguy wrote:Archon doesn't have access to Eternal Warrior so taking that Plasma Cannon hit was a bit risky.

Huh, I guess your right. Oh well, simple mistake of not reading the special rules or wargear.

Paragus wrote:So at my local game shop, this guy was showing off his new Dark Eldar, and his new codex (which consisted of scanned pages that had been printed out.)

Piracy is bad news bears.

Seaward wrote:

Paragus wrote:So at my local game shop, this guy was showing off his new Dark Eldar, and his new codex (which consisted of scanned pages that had been printed out.)

Piracy is bad news bears.

I was about to point that out, you should probably tell the guy to screw off with that...

It's a bit petty to argue piracy when the book isn't even out for him to buy it yet. If he's just playing them eatly to get a head start and will buy the codex on release then what's the problem? Now if in 2-3 weeks he still only has a scanned copy ....

Horsecrap! GW has gotten enough money off me to buy a decent car, I think they can spot me a few books...

They really aren't losing money when I take said free book and buy $500 in minis to use the book :p

But, opinions may vary

I hope this doesn't turn into a piracy argument lol