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130 Soviet Infantry for £18.00? Why wouldn't that be a bad idea? lol

http://theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk/index.php?main_page=page&id=1

And they have a North American distributor http://sgmm.biz/index.html

Which is good since they don't ship to Canada

Any chance of pics of the actual product?

That would be nice, I haven't seen them either, although members of my club did back in May when TPSC attended our annual show. They are apparently very good indeed.

My friend has ordered a box but I wont see them until Wednesday week, I'll try and get some shots then.

Please do! Tempted to build a soviet company if these look good!

I'll also chime in that I am eagerly awaiting pictures!

I may be doing a review of these for a popular online magazine. I'll see what I can do.

I'm sorry but 130 plastic 15mm figures for £18.50? That's ludicrously expensive (14p per miniature) it's barely a saving over metal 15mm.

You can buy 120 15mm metal Russians plus support platoons from forged in battle for a mere £30.

And you can get over 100 figures from battlefront for about £25.

£18.50 for 130 plastic miniatures?

Also Considering their plastic 20mm set is 57 miniatures for £10 (17.5 pence per miniature) this represents almost as much per figure. Heck their 28mm set is £18.50
for 57 hard plastic miniatures and that's 33 pence per miniature, That's about 1 third of the price of their metal equivalents. Why are these 15mm plastics about 2/3 - 3/4 of the price of their metal equivalents?

I hope this listing is a mistake, it has to be, this set is worth about £12 max.

Also why does the description on the pages refer to them as 1/72 which is actually 20mm?

LuciusAR wrote:I'm sorry but 130 plastic 15mm figures for £18.50? That's ludicrously expensive (14p per miniature) it's barley a saving over metal 15mm.

You can buy 120 15mm metal Russians plus support platoons from forged in battle for a mere £30.

So the plastic is cheaper for more figures

And you can get over 100 figures from battlefront for about £25.

So again the plastic is cheaper for more figures

£18.50 for 130 plastic miniatures?

Also Considering their plastic 20mm set is 57 miniatures for £10 (17.5 pence per miniature) this represents almost as much per figure. Heck their 28mm set is £18.50
for 57 hard plastic miniatures and that's 33 pence per miniature, That's about 1 third of the price of their metal equivalents. Why are these 15mm plastics about 2/3 - 3/4 of the price of their metal equivalents?

I hope this listing is a mistake, it has to be, this set is worth about £12 max.

Also why does the description on the pages refer to them as 1/72 which is actually 20mm?

Typo I would think, they do a 1/72/20mm set already and these are new.

LuciusAR wrote: it's barley a saving over metal 15mm.

Lets hops so.


Its generally, from what I can see, 45-35% cheaper than most metal 15mm figures.

Granted its not as good value as the 20mm version, 18p compared to 55p, and 28mm, 57p compared to £1, but not far off it.

Given that they will be reduced versions of those already available, you know the sort of pose selection. What I do wonder about is if the fault rate increases per sprue as you reduce the size. This maybe a reason... I dont know to be honest.

Im also guessing there is a bit of guesstimate in this as its the first hard plastic 15mm set and they need to find the right benchmark for pricing. I think £18 sounds about right. If they include FOW size bases in the box, I'd say that will be a winner.

Moot point for me, I game WW2 in 20mm and thankfully have more than enough Russians painted... and all of them metal. May get a box to have a look at though.

Lucius AR, you posted exactly same post on Warseer complaing about those figures being expensive. Do you have some sort of personal grudge here

Technically speaking, for a new company/new plastic line metal would be initially be cheaper than plastic to make

LuciusAR wrote:I'm sorry but 130 plastic 15mm figures for £18.50? That's ludicrously expensive (14p per miniature) it's barley a saving over metal 15mm.

Oh dear, wheat are we going to do?

He didnt get my Hops reference... Yours is less subtle.

wardancer wrote:Lucius AR, you posted exactly same post on Warseer complaing about those figures being expensive. Do you have some sort of personal grudge here

Not a personal grudge, this was being discussed on both forums and my opinion was relevant to both threads, I saw no need to tailor my response for each forum. The price is far too high IMHO.

Orlanth wrote:

Oh dear, wheat are we going to do?

Well spotted!

Well up to you mate, I reckon that this company doesn't run wargaming charity however so... don't think they can really afford to sell it for anything less, in my opinion and everybody else I spoke to its a good price. Your calculations that you gave seem to be completely wrong as well.

These sound like a great deal to me, although I do agree that they could have been cheaper.

I'll be looking very much forward to seeing some photos of the actual product!

angelbleu wrote:These sound like a great deal to me, although I do agree that they could have been cheaper.

Guess you dont play GW games then...

Makes me laugh when people moan about prices for historical stuff... Is stupidly cheap compared to the likes of Fantasy/Sci-Fi figures in general.

Personally, it seems like brilliant value to me. Especially when you consider the high cost of a mould and the small market share the product will likely reach.

Big P wrote:Guess you dont play GW games then...

Makes me laugh when people moan about prices for historical stuff... Is stupidly cheap compared to the likes of Fantasy/Sci-Fi figures in general.

No, I don't. At least, not any more.

But I do know for past experience that the "big name" Fantasy/Sci-Fi figures from the likes of GW are horribly overpriced.

When I said that the new plastic 15mm Russians "could have been cheaper", I was referring to what you've pointed out in your previous post. (i.e. not as good a value as their 20mm or 28mm versions)

And I said they "could" and not "should" precisely because there isn't any other plastic 15mm manufacturers I can compare them with.

But if they prove to be successful (and I don't see any reason why they shouldn't), other manufacturers are going to use their pricing as a benchmark, and I would have preferred the "norm" to be a bit cheaper than that.

Just my 2 cents, and if you don't agree with that, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Im happy with the price, An entire FOW Soviet infantry COY for under £20, I dont see anything wrong there at all.

Having said that Ive yet to see them, and have only reports from my friends at our show (It was the wifes 40th birthday, so it was go to show and get killed in unpleasant ways or take her to London for the weekend!)

Now I am told that they are better then FOW metal, and if that is the case, Its a great deal.

I hopefully be seeing them on Wednesday and as I said I'll take the camera.


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So my Oppo has just sent these shots to our group with the following discription:

From left to right you have PSC Painted x 6, PSC Unpainted x 3, Painted Battlefront Fins x 3 and the lard a*se on the end with the tuck box is a Peter Pig Russo/Polish war figure.





Now they arnt the best photos in the world but you can see that the scale is good compared with BF and from a distance they look pretty good, I will still try and get sprue shots on Wednesday.


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Right, apparently if you follow the link below, you can zoom in on those Photos:


http://devonwargames.blogspot.com/

@Aldramelech: Wow, they look even better than I dared to hope!

I'm off to get myself a box now!

pic of sprues on Polish website http://urbanzone.ehost.pl/blog/?p=528

I think they actually look better than the 28mm and 20mm version to be honest.

Plastic works well in 15mm...

Now will someone please do hard plastic 15mm Napoleonics, ECW and Ancients!

Thank you Wardancer, that saves me a job tonight.

P, reckon they wont be far away now........

Aldramelech wrote:

P, reckon they wont be far away now........

Lets hope so.

I would say there is a big market waiting for it... As long as they do Naps or SYW... Not go all silly and do some bizarre war!

Oh and as long as they dont do something that I already have armies for in 28mm, like AWI and ACW!

well just got my 3 boxes and am well chuffed

worked out my FoW russion army and the infantry allown would have cost £135 from BF and i got these 3 boxes for £55.50 so well over 60% saving and aparently talking to the guy at plasticsoldier company the plastic t34 kit should be ready early in the new year and they are working on the plastic brits as we speak so bring on the plastic

Sounds good. I even asked them if they were thinking about early war french and they said they're considering it

of course I actually want them in 28mm for skirmishes though

A good year for plastic with Bolt Action's 28mm British out in time for the end of it to round things off.

yeah BA plastic 28mm are great just need them to do there rather expensive resin veichles as plastic kits LOL

shame i have all my infantry for brits and german already in metal for BA and crusader

I don't like the BA plastic rifles, they probably are completely correct scale wise, but look too thin and spindly.
The Machine guns and stuff are fine.

But thats a small concern, plenty of good weapon packs out there