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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/02 21:27:43
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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While it seems great that something so powerful as a LR can Deep Strike, is it worth it, considering how much of a risk it is Deep Striking something of that size onto a potentially crowded board? It's also more useful if it's in play from turn 1, as being able to use its weapons from the start. Is there anything I should know before ruling this out altogether?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/02 21:30:33
Subject: Re:Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's worth it for fun, but since the thing is the size of a brick, bad things have a high chance of happening if you play on a terrain heavy board or try to drop too close to the Enemy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/02 21:40:11
Subject: Re:Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Imperial Admiral
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No. Absolutely not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/02 22:21:41
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Copied from another thread I posed in:
Deep striking Land Raiders are a joke. Firstly, and most importantly, units cannot assault out of a Land Raider that arrived by deep strike. Secondly, that Land Raider is in reserve, so any number of units that mess with reserves (OoTF being one that springs to mind) may very well delay not only the Raider, but also the 200+ point hammer unit inside. Thidly, the Land Raider has a ma-hoosive footprint on the table, thus increasing its chance of being mishapped (along with the unit inside) if it happens to scatter. Note the Land Raider does NOT benefit from the DoA special rule. Fourthly, the Land Raider has more than likely deep struck on top of you, thus bringing it even closer to the mass of meltaguns that you are wielding (you ARE playng 5th Ed. right?). Fifthly, the Land Raider can only shoot on of its weapons (PotMS) on the turn it lands, as opposed to the 1-2 it could do normally.
L. Wrex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 02:46:22
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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^ cannot assault on the turn it arrives, may I correct.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 03:17:42
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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In theory its a good idea. In practice it sucks. Deep striking a land raider takes away all the things that make it great. They just become way to easy to kill (through misshap or enemy melta fire)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 03:51:37
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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CommissarCandlestick wrote:While it seems great that something so powerful as a LR can Deep Strike, is it worth it, considering how much of a risk it is Deep Striking something of that size onto a potentially crowded board? It's also more useful if it's in play from turn 1, as being able to use its weapons from the start. Is there anything I should know before ruling this out altogether?
yeah...... you dont really want to deep strike a land raider if you can help it.... I can imagine it being useful in some circumstances (they have scouting units with meltaguns) but this really is not the best use for a raider. too risky, and you dont want to hold such a large portion of your army in reserve if you can help it.... not without some kind of way to control when those reserves show up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 05:50:03
Subject: Re:Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Part of paying a premium on something crazy expensive like a landraider is your hoping your opponent will spend alot of turns trying to shoot it down instead of your less armored other units. In addition to all of the serious issues already mentioned if you hold your raider back you can have a situation where 100% of your opponents anti-tank is focused on >75% of your list and the most vulnerable parts of it no less. That gets exacerbated as each turn that it doesn't come in on goes by.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 05:52:46
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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yeah thats a good point
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 13:28:13
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Wicked Ghast
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Vehicles that deep strike count as moving flat-out on the turn they arrive, also. So no alpha-strike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 13:32:43
Subject: Re:Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Vehicles that deep strike count as moving at cruising speed.
Fixed that for you!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 14:10:01
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Smarteye wrote:Vehicles that deep strike count as moving flat-out on the turn they arrive, also. So no alpha-strike.
Also, POTMS
But yea deepstriking a Landraider is awful regardless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 14:41:29
Subject: Re:Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Bloodtracker
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Deep striking LR are a joke while bringing a buddie of mine up to speed with 5ed and new BA codex only game I beat him in is when he decided to Deep strike his land raider. Rune priest ended up immobilizing via psychic power behind terrain with blocked Los ended becoming 250 bunker for rest of the game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 14:52:37
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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And i thought this was a good idea
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 16:13:39
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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well... better forewarned than fore-whatever
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 17:19:32
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Than fore-mishap-ed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/03 17:41:23
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's just a bad call. It is way too expensive of a unit, especially if it is carrying terminators, to risk losing via a mishap. Plus I believe many people have already mentioned you can't DS in and then fire a ton of the weapons so that is a no go as well.
LR are good, deepstriking them is not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/05 01:59:34
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Araqiel
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It's always an option. You may never use it except one game out of 50 but if you think it could help it's always there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/05 04:54:44
Subject: Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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The main reason to buy is a land raider is so that terminators don't have to deepstrike. Increasing the squad size to 10 deep striking terminators is less points than the deep striking land raider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/05 10:27:21
Subject: Re:Deep Striking BA Land Raiders; worth it?
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Well, you COULD do a deep strike army, spam drop pods with locatod beacons and pray that your LR comes in on turn 2. Not a good idea, but you probably won't mishap atleast...
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