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HQ:
Warboss 140
-Warbike
-Cybork Body
-Power Klaw
-Combi shoota/rokkit
Warboss 140
-Warbike
-Cybork Body
-Power Klaw
-Combi shoota/rokkit

TROOPS:
Nobs x4 280
-Warbikes
-Cybork Bodies (x4)
-Painboy
-PK, combi shoota/rokkit
-waargh banner (Choppa/shoota)
-Bosspole (Choppa/shoota)

Nobs x4 280
-Warbikes
-Cybork Bodies (x4)
-Painboy
-PK, combi shoota/rokkit
-waargh banner (Choppa/shoota)
-Bosspole (Choppa/shoota)

Ork Boyz x19 160
-Nob (PK/Bosspole)
Ork Boyz x19 160
-Nob (PK/Bosspole)

Grots x10 40
-Runthard
Grots x10 40
-Runthard

HEAVY:

Battlewagon 130
-Deffrolla
-Red Paint Job
-Grot Riggers
-2x Big Shootas

Battlewagon 130
-Deffrolla
-Red Paint Job
-Grot Riggers
-2x Big Shootas

1500 on the dot....(6 scoring units, 10 kill points, 62 model count)

Firstly, i'm not going to win the tournament i'm going to in January (UK Throne of Skulls GT....) with any army list, i'm not good enough. I have two options, either an Ork list like this (I have 12 Bikers (not converted yet), 3 BWs, 2 lots of grots, 80 boyz, BR warboss, 3 deffkoptas, 5 nobs, two bozes of nobs (to convert bikes mainly...), or my Marine army (TH termies in land Raiders...) which i already have, and have been playing inconsistently for 3/4 months (Chaos for the year or two before that...), but i just don't seem to use my Marines well enough, and i think if i take them, i could be looking at losing every game, which may happen anyway, but i would like to win at least one game

I like this list quite a lot in one way, its giving me 8 nob bikers, 2 warbosses, 4 PKs...but thats across 2 squads, so that means i have options, i could keep the two squads together, or spread them out, i could send the warbosses of if i've assaulting squishy units. And then the two battlewagons will be giving support to the Nobz as well, and can't be ignored. (and the grotz will just have a fun day out ).....


Could this list be loads better? (i know Nob Biker lists have problems anyway, but is this one especially weak?)
Also Cybork armor, how can i represent that on the models? I will probably have to for a tournament won't I?
Thanks

Switch a Warboss for Wazdakka take Warbikers are troops now you've got a all biker list, much better

Or take a single Warboss with two Nobz Bikers, then two Lootas in units of 5 and a Big Mek. Big Mek has KFF to protect Wagons , Lootas give long ranged support and you've still got the outriders in the form of Bikers.

Completely drop the Grots. They're next to useless, even sitting on objectives, and they're like a free KP for your enemy to grab instantly and easily. Yeah, I agree with Mercer, take Wazdakka. He's awesome, and has one of the best anti-tank guns in the entire ork codex!

I don't want normal bikers as troops though....partly because i can't afford to buy many more bikes, and secondly, i don't think they will end up looking all that different to the Nob Bikers really....(although all Bikers would be fun )


Also, what is the point of 5 Lootas? surely they don't do enough damage...
And one of my friends has played Nob Biker lists (and non Nob-biker ork lists in general), and Grots have won him the game on numerous occasions....so there not useless at all...yeah if something is outflanking, and the bikers/BW are no where near/already being delt with, the grots could be a targer, same for drop pods....But they will probably be in reserve anyway, and hopefully won't come on untill turn 4 (so they have two turns to move, if objective more than 12" away....)

P.S
Thanks for your suggestions

You know what Rodgers I said the same thing about 5 Lootas myself. I took them in a small points tournament and found out other wise. With small Lootas you only need that one dice to get the result on the vehicle and you're winning, with 10 or 15 you can get that same result several times over - why get double or triple unit size when one unit does the same job for less points?

Give them a try, honestly they work and I once thought same as you.

Grots are ok for objective taking on your home turf, however saying they hopefully won't come on until turn 4 isn't always going to happen and you know it - it's a dice game 40k, this often gets forgotten about. Though, just be prepare if anything starts shooting or assaulting them then they will die, just remember when being shot at always go to ground

I'll give the lootas a go then....I suppose your right really, they are autocannons, and autocannons for Guard/Marines aren't taken in units of 10+ are they....

Well no, but remember Orks suck at shooting that's why taken in large numbers, but still 30 S7 shots at a vehicle would mean about 33% hit and then roll on the vehicle chart - that's a dead vehicle!