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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:35:23
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Fresh-Faced New User
Vista, CA
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I am planning out my Iguard commander, and figured it would be cool and fluffy etc. for him to be dual-wielding plamsa pistols...
The only problem is that I wouldn't do this if it has no rules effects. I only have the little rule book and all it says about pistols is that they are effectively assault one and count as close combat weapons...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:37:12
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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There is if you're a Seraphim.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:39:16
Subject: Re:Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
Mesa, AZ
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It will just give you an extra attack. No benefit in shooting. Isn't worth the 15pnts. IMHO
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:39:17
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Norn Queen
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On normal characters, you don't even get the option to equip 2 pistols. Even if you could, you can only fire 1 weapon unless you have the relentless (I think? There's a rule that lets you fire two equipped weapons) rule or are a monstrous creature (which count as relentless).
However, there's nothing at all stopping you from modeling him with 2 plasma pistols. My assault marine sergeant has it as well - I used to represent it by giving him a aster crafted plasma pistol, basically making it twin linked. Until they dropped master crafted as an upgrade option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:41:43
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Melissia wrote:There is if you're a Seraphim.
My thoughts exactly. You can fire one in the shooting phase. They just count as more attacks in assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:43:01
Subject: Re:Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Fresh-Faced New User
Vista, CA
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Thanks, that's helpful... I guess one could argue that a plasma pistol to the face could function as a power fist... or at least a power weapon!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/11/12 01:43:23
Imperial Fists- about 1,200pts.
Dwarves- >1,000pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:46:27
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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I always wondered why plasma pistols don't count as being a single strength 7 hit in assault. Probably because they just hit a guy on the head with it or something
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:48:03
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Samus_aran115 wrote:I always wondered why plasma pistols don't count as being a single strength 7 hit in assault. Probably because they just hit a guy on the head with it or something 
Pirates used to use their pistols as club once they had fired them... it's probably not the same though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:49:03
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Norn Queen
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Well, if they let you use a plasma pistol in assault, you'd also need to account for Gets Hot. I'd rather not have my own guys blow themselves up in assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:49:47
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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-Loki- wrote:Well, if they let you use a plasma pistol in assault, you'd also need to account for Gets Hot. I'd rather not have my own guys blow themselves up in assault.
It'd be so awesome though.
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"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
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"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 01:58:43
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Norn Queen
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That already happens all the time. I'd rather it not happen in assault as well as the shooting phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/12 05:15:12
Subject: Re:Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Especially as in assault you MUST attack where you can chose not to fire the plasma in the shooting phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 21:51:49
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Would they not be twin-linked?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 21:56:45
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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That's how Creed did it back in the old codex. Two hellpistols became one, twin-linked hellpistol. Of course, we ARE talking about Creed here...
And no, you can't shoot someone in close combat with your pistol. When someone is beating your head in with a rock, taking the time to aim and fire your weapon is straight out of the question. Plasma pistols are clubs, just like everything else (unless you put a bayonet on the front...)
As for the OP, if you want the coolness of a matched pair of pistols without it also being ludicrous, you could give him a pair of bolt pistols. That way, you're only wasting 1 point, and probably filling in a gap that the purchase of the first bolt pistol created.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 22:00:53
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There is Cypher, of course. But there are no rules for him currently, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 22:08:01
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I'd model him with two Plasma pistols and just count it as a PP and close combat weapon. The combination of two plasma pistols and a PP/CC weapon have the same in game effect - I'd have no problem with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/21 16:45:25
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
Cornwall UK
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There is one sole reason for dual wielding Plasma pistols.
BECAUSE IT LOOKS COOL!
But seriously, if you dual-wielded say a boltgun and a plasma pistol for an SM sergeant, then you can shoot blokes at range with the boltgun, and shoot them silly at close range with a plasma pistol. Would the Plasma pistol give him an extra attack in combat when teamed with a boltgun, though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/21 16:57:02
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Only if he has another Close combat weapon. The Boltgun, as far as the rule is concerned, only exists during the shooting phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/22 15:22:17
Subject: Is there any use in dual-wielding pistols?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well the reason to have a dual pistol fig is this:
Not exactly wise to have 2 plasma pistols, but it looks good IMHO. Anyway if you magnetise your fig (just like I did here) you can do it without fear
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