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Can the defenders destroy there own buildings in planetstrike

 
   
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I don't have the book on me, so I'd assume no, assuming that it's their building not just a building they have troops occupying, as the rules for not purpousefully targeting your own units still apply.

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luggnuts wrote:Can the defenders destroy there own buildings in planetstrike



There's no such thing as 'their own buildings' per se.

The rules (in the rulebook) allow a unit to fire at an occupied building, so as long as the building has occupants you are technically allowed to fire at it...you just can't fire at empty buildings.


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is the OP talking about squad A occupying building Z and firing on that same building? or squad B firing on building Z with squad A still inside?

A one line question is almost pointless...
   
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yakface wrote:
luggnuts wrote:Can the defenders destroy there own buildings in planetstrike



There's no such thing as 'their own buildings' per se.

The rules (in the rulebook) allow a unit to fire at an occupied building, so as long as the building has occupants you are technically allowed to fire at it...you just can't fire at empty buildings.



SoloFalcon1138 wrote:is the OP talking about squad A occupying building Z and firing on that same building? or squad B firing on building Z with squad A still inside?

A one line question is almost pointless...


what i mean is in planetstrike if i am occupying a building as the attacker but it is the defenders building can the defender assault the building and destroy it

 
   
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Then yes. Of course. It's no longer controlled by them, so why should they worry about destroying it?

Granted, it may be a better idea to try and take it back, but if you're up against a wall, then destroying it is perfectly acceptable.

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Just bear in mind that there is no provision for targeting empty buildings - so you can't destroy a building that the enemy is about to take...
   
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Scott-S6 wrote:Just bear in mind that there is no provision for targeting empty buildings - so you can't destroy a building that the enemy is about to take...


Really? The basic 40k rulebook doesn't say that you can't target a building....I'd assume there's nothing stopping you from doing so. It's just not a very common thing to do.

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ChrisWWII wrote:
Scott-S6 wrote:Just bear in mind that there is no provision for targeting empty buildings - so you can't destroy a building that the enemy is about to take...


Really? The basic 40k rulebook doesn't say that you can't target a building....I'd assume there's nothing stopping you from doing so. It's just not a very common thing to do.


But it does state that shooting attacks have to be aimed at an opposing players unit/army. Unless you got lucky on scatter rolls or there was an enemy in or directly next to the building there is no way to purposely target it for the sole sake of destroying it. Which, IMHO, is really stupid that you can't. If it provides a tactical advantage there is no reason you shouldn't be able to. "But the rules say this so you can't do that." is what comes into play here. You could always just house rule it though.

Always remember, it is a permissive rules system meaning if it doesn't say you CAN, then you CAN NOT. Not the other way around.

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As above - uncontrolled buildings are not Enemy, therefore cannot be targetted.
   
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ChrisWWII wrote:
Scott-S6 wrote:Just bear in mind that there is no provision for targeting empty buildings - so you can't destroy a building that the enemy is about to take...


Really? The basic 40k rulebook doesn't say that you can't target a building....I'd assume there's nothing stopping you from doing so. It's just not a very common thing to do.


That's not how a permissive ruleset works. You have no permission to do something, ergo you can't.

"a firing unit may choose a single enemy unit that is not locked in combat as it's target" P16
"units may shoot at or assault an occupied building" P79

No permission is given to target an unoccupied building.
   
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Alright then. I stand corrected. You can't shoot at an empty building, under RAW. However, in a game, I'd allow it....I mean if you're fighting for defense, it may be better to destroy your resources than let it be taken by the enemy.

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