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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 17:35:25
Subject: Tau 1500pts - What I Own
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As I waited for my pay cheque, I compiled a list that I posted a few days ago on this board. Recieving all-round good feedback, I waited for my cheque so that i could buy the last bits for it... I waited... I waited... and I waited... and now i'm going to have to chase it up tomorrow, won't get it for ages and it won't clear into my account until a few days after I get it.
TL;DR: I can't afford my last list, here's a new one:
HQ:
Shas’El w/ Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Targeting array, Stimulant Injector, hard-wired multi-tracker and hard-wired drone controller + 2 shield drones – 137pts
Elites:
2x Crisis Battlesuit w/ Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod and Multi-Tracker + Team Leader w/ PR/MP, Targetting Array + HW Multi-Tracker – 139pts
Crisis Battlesuit w/ Team Leader, Targetting Array, Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, HW Multi-Tracker, HW Drone Controller + 2 Shield Drones – 107pts
Crisis Battlesuit w/ Team Leader, Targetting Array, Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, HW Multi-Tracker, HW Drone Controller + 2 Shield Drones – 107pts
Troops:
10x Fire Warriors w/ Team Leader + Bonding Knife – 115pts
10x Fire Warriors w/ Team Leader + Bonding Knife – 115pts
10x Fire Warriors – 100pts
Fast Attack:
6x Pathfinders w/ Devilfish + Dpods - 145pts
Heavy Support:
2 Broadsides w/ Targetting Array + Team leader w/ Bonding Knife, HW Target Lock and HW drone controller + 2 shield drones – 205pts
Hammerhead Gunship w/ Railgun, Burst Cannons, Multi-tracker and Disruption Pods - 165pts
Hammerhead Gunship w/ Railgun, Burst Cannons, Multi-tracker and Disruption Pods - 165pts
Total - 1500pts
That is everything I own bar a handful of fire warriors, 6 Stealth Suits (4x BC 2x FB) and 10 or so Kroot. The latter two units I despise, and won't use unless absolutely necessary. I will max out everyone's wargear before even thinking about including them in my lists. They are out for eternity. The handful of fire warriors number ~6-8; hardly a huge number and useful only as cannon fodder; expensive fire warrior-shaped cannon fodder.
Okay, reasons for stuff:
HQ: Has the Stim. Injector for laughs. I had 10 spare points and could've given him and the 2 man crisis suit team a bonding knife each. You just don't see enough of the special issue stuff around, so I figured i'd give it a test run for the heck of it. If it seriously is a waste of points, bonding knives for everyone!
Elites:
Monats have shield drones because... because... I dunno. I didn't have much more that I could spend the points on (6 more fire warriors ayone?) and I figured it might be annoying to force an enemy to expend that much shooting into a single model. Granted, it's 107pts, so pretty damn expensive, but apart from that he's a free kill-point without them, so might as well make him as hard as possible to get at. (I've had good experiences with Monats. Heavy Weapons team fires a lascannon and kills him, the other 3 lascannons are left without anything to shoot that phase.)
2-man team is joined by Shas'El, using his shield drones.
Troops:
Pretty straight-forward. The pathfinder fish hangs near the leaderless squad just in case they need to skedaddle (that's a word I don't use nearly enough).
Fast Attack:
A second pathfinder squad is all I need to buy, but since I can't afford it money-wise, i'm stuck with 1 team.
Heavy Support:
Broadsides have TArrays instead of ASSes due to the lack of pathfinders around to boost BS for them.
Hammerheads are self-explanitory.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2010/11/14 22:51:30
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 00:35:32
Subject: Tau 1500pts - What I Own
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Fixture of Dakka
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Decent list. I don't see much to change ... paring down the Shas'el, maybe to bond the Monats as failing morale won't allow them to rally, once they lose the drones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 00:56:32
Subject: Tau 1500pts - What I Own
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Gak, forgot that drones count towards casualties (why!?). I guess I could dump the FW Team Leaders + Knives, as they've never taken many casualties outside of assaults, and they're doomed then anyway.
That'd scrape me back 30pts for the bonding knives on the Crisis suits, leaving me 10pts kicking around which i could use for a HW Target Lock on the commander and TL of the 2-man suit team, or Blacksun Filters on the hammerheads on the off-chance we roll a DoW set-up, or even a seeker missile on the devilfish for the heck of it?
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 17:31:32
Subject: Tau 1500pts - What I Own
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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To conquer bumping, one must become a bumper.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
My deviantART Profile - Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Madness
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 17:54:08
Subject: Tau 1500pts - What I Own
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Not necessarily. I read this list when it was on the bottom of the army list page, I just didn't have the time to comment, or read it thoroughly for that matter.
I agree with brother erekose, but this is still a good list.
I think that hammerheads should get target locks when possible, it enables them to use their burst cannons more effectively.
I would take one shield drone off of both your Single-Crisis suit teams and give your Hammerheads target locks. I would also give your devilfish the full warfish job. SMS, TA, and MT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/15 18:42:41
Subject: Tau 1500pts - What I Own
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I disagree on the burst cannons. There's only one time where i've been forced to use them, and it was a match I lost due to bad luck (never have I gone a full 7 turns without wrecking a single vehicle using 4 railguns...) where they didn't so much as make a dent.
I don't see the point in giving your vehicle a 72" railgun and gearing it up to be able to use 18" burst cannons on a seperate target. They're cheaper than Gun Drones and an SMS, and also equally as useless on a vehicle that isn't going to be going to 18-24" in a hurry.
On the Warfish, i've tried it before and never really got much out of it. 4 Pulse rifle shots at 24" never really did a whole lot, and it just meant that I had to have it forward of my Pathfinder and Fire Warrior teams if I wanted it to shoot stuff from the get go. Suffice it say it got charged by a Jetcouncil and wrecked.
I could try it again (I rarely rolled higher than 3-4 for anything but CC in that game, where a squad of fire warriors beat down a harlie a unit and another FW squad held the jetcouncil in combat till the end of the game) and see how it fares.
Breakdown of advice into list form:
HQ:
Shas’El w/ Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Targeting array, Stimulant Injector, Bonding Knife, hard-wired multi-tracker and hard-wired drone controller + 2 shield drones – 142pts
Elites:
2x Crisis Battlesuit w/ Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod and Multi-Tracker + Team Leader w/ PR/MP, Bonding Knife, Targetting Array + HW Multi-Tracker – 144pts
Crisis Battlesuit w/ Team Leader, Targetting Array, Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Bonding Knife, HW Multi-Tracker, HW Drone Controller + 1 Shield Drone – 97pts
Crisis Battlesuit w/ Team Leader, Targetting Array, Plasma Rifle, Missile Pod, Bonding Knife, HW Multi-Tracker, HW Drone Controller + 1 Shield Drone – 97pts
Troops:
10x Fire Warriors – 100pts
10x Fire Warriors – 100pts
10x Fire Warriors – 100pts
Fast Attack:
6x Pathfinders w/ Devilfish + Dpods, SMS, TArray and MT - 180pts
Heavy Support:
2 Broadsides w/ Targetting Array + Team leader w/ Bonding Knife, HW Target Lock and HW drone controller + 2 shield drones – 205pts
Hammerhead Gunship w/ Railgun, Burst Cannons, Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker and Disruption Pods - 170pts
Hammerhead Gunship w/ Railgun, Burst Cannons, Multi-tracker and Disruption Pods - 165pts
Total - 1500pts
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/11/17 13:13:27
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
My deviantART Profile - Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Madness
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/18 13:39:47
Subject: Re:Tau 1500pts - What I Own
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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First tyrout of the list yesterday, and I got my arse handed to me by Necrons:
Necrons List:
Nightbringer
Lord w/ Res Orb, Staff of Light and Phylactery
20x Necron Warriors
20x Necron Warriors
Monolith
I did take pictures, but my phone camera isn't great, and they're not the best themselves, so I haven't uploaded them.
Mission - Annihilation
Deployment - Dawn of War - We forgot Night Fighting, but it wouldn't have helped a whole lot anyway.
Necrons deployed first, all 40 warriors were deploed in lines at the very front of his table half, each the full 2" away. His Orb Lord was deployed in Terrain within 6" of both unit.
With nowhere to really deploy, I was forced to stick near the table edge with my FWs and Crisis Commander.
I stole the initiative.
Turn 1 - Tau:
Everything waddled on. My broadsides couldn't fire anything, nor could my Pathfinders (i've not played 40k in a while, so we didn't know how pathfinders dealt with DoW deployment when they can't be on the table to make a scout move). I fired everything I could, including railguns at the Necron lord to kill off the res orb. My terrible luck with shooting let me down, with plasma scoring hits, but rolling 1s to wound like they were going out of fashion. In the end, only a handful of Necrons went down...
Turn 1 - Necrons:
...and then all but 1 or 2 got right back up. Needing 30 to force a phase out, this wasn't going well. He advanced slowly on me, bringing his 'Lith and Nightbringer in from the board edge. They were out of range to do anything large, but in an error of judgement (neither of had played 40k in a while, it seems) we didn't count arriving from reserves as movement, and so the Monolith got into range of my Hammerhead, scattered onto a nearby monats, saved the Dpods cover and watched the suit snuff it. NKPs 1 - 0 TKPs. The warriors rapid fired my hammerheads as the lord closed in to try and get to CC. One Hammerhead was immobilised and stunned, the other was shaken.
Turn 2 - Tau:
I was now completely boxed in. There was literally nowhere to go. The Warriors had blocked all movement forward and I was pinned against the table edge. Desperately, I pulled the movable hammerhead back and moved everything into rapid fire range, lighting up one unit of Necrons with markerlights. It was now or never. The lit up unit took the punishment of:
20 BS5 pulse rifle shots, 6 BS5 Plasma Rifle shots, 6 BS5 Missile Pod Shots, 3 BS5 Burst Cannon shots and 4 BS5 SMS shots. I knocked down a mighty 15. The other squad took:
40 Pulse Rifle Shots, 2 Plasma Rifle Shots and 2 Missile Pod shots, taking around 11 casualties.
Combat next turn was inevitable. Even though my broadsides pummeled the Lord with railguns to try and knock out the Res Orb, he stood strong.
Turn 2 - Necrons:
The Tau watched in horror as 8 of the 15 got back up, and all but 2 of the 11 rose again. When I though it would all be over, it truly was not. Movement saw an additional 5 of the 15 rising as they teleported the monolith, meaning that I only claimed 4 real casualties out of 26 caused. This wasn't good. The Necron unit that remained readied a charge against an FW squad, and the Lord lined up a charge against my immobile hammerhead. Shooting saw nothing much happening. The monolith couldn't fire as he teleported. The Nightbringer missed his shot, and nothing else could shoot bar the teleported necrons (do they count as moving if they teleport?) who fired single shots into my third FW team, claiming 3 casualties. Combat ensued. The Lord ripped the railgun off my hammerhead and immobilised me a second time, tearing off the bust cannons. It was basically now a wreck, but needed 1 more result. The warriors took 1 casualty to 2 in combat, leaving the fire warriors to flee 8" after the Necrons failed to sweep.
Turn 3 - Tau:
I was now abolsutely desperate. One squad of warriors were deep in my half, and only had 2 squads of Fire Warriors to contend with. My fleeing squad rallied and turned to face the warriors once again. I didn't even bother moving . There was no way I was leaving charge range and still being able to shoot. Lighting up the teleported necron warriors, I unleashed a torrent of long range fire and sumbunition shot into them from my last working hammerhead. 2 Warriors fell. 2. The Necron Lord fell to my Broadside Team leader, the monolith was hit but I rolled a 3 for armour penetration as I attempted to blast what I could out of the sky. The warriors previously in close combat took 36 pulse rifle shots, with a good amount still standing at the end. All I could do now was wait.
Turn 3 - Necrons:
This time, they were out of res orb range. Those that fell to plasma rifles were felled forever, but they were few, most of the rest rose again. The Lord also rose on a single wound. The Necrons marched closer. The lord approached the broadsides, the teleported warriors closing on my half again. Not much shooting happened. The monolith's particle whip was saved by disruption pods, the the nightbringer hit my hammerhead, but was also disruption pod saved. Combat saw my brodsides lose a drone and take a wound to the lord, and score 3 hits, but only a single wound to the lord, who saved it. Losing combat, they fled on a roll of 11 and were swept down (they would've run off anyway). The warriors still in my area charged my last full FW unit, doing the exact same as last time, except I failed 5 armour saves and saved 2 instead of saving 5 and failing 2. I rolled an 8 and got away, only to be in range of the board edge by mere millimetres. with a single model. NKPs 3 - 0 TKPs
Turn 4 - Tau:
Moving my 8-man FW squad into cover to try and buy time by forcing a difficult terrain test for chargers and attempting a Tank Shock with my hammerhead was all my moving. Everything else was already in rapid fire range. Firing at the monolith with my hammerhead scored me a hit, but yet another 3 for penetration. I fired everything I had. Several warriors went down the plasma rifles, but only a few to the other weapons. The Lord was rapid fired to death by a crisis suit. It was basically over. There was no way I could force the remaining casualties for a phase out, and he had too few KPs on the table.
Turn 4 - Necrons:
His monolith shifted nearer to the centre. The warriors moved up again. Having thought the Lord dead, I was devestated as the Monolith awoke him again on a single wound. Nothing much happened. The Nightbringer fired again to no avail, and my remaining fire warriors were charged and wiped out by necrons warriors. NKPs 5 - 0 TKPs.
Turn 5 - Tau:
Nothing. No wounds were dealt. At all. I fluffed everything.
Turn 5 - Necrons:
Similarly to my turn 5, no damage was dealt, even by flux arcs.
Game Ends, Necrons win by 5KPs to my 0KPs.
Post-match thoughts:
Buggery. The WBB rolls, the monolith re-rolling them when teleporting, the res orb and necron deployment really killed me. My plasma rifles did nothng for most of the game because the monolith revived them or they were in res orb range. They just got back up after everything else. In the end I needed 13 more kills to force a phase out, and it was never going to happen. My warfish didn't touch much all game, and my pathfinders were at too long of a range to be targetted, sitting in the far corner of my deployment zone. There was nowhere to move, and the mistake of allowing movement after coming in from reserves must've aided in killing me off, as he had somewhere to move and I didn't.
Having to deploy 18" away from models spread across the deployment line in 24" of board space is also extremely hard, and with little terrain, their advance wasn't hindered. His investment in the monolith wasn't wasted, but the Nightbringer was. He failed to do anything, and was just ignored all game; he just wasn't a threat. The Monolith was only threatening because of the repairs it makes by teleporting. If it didn't go down, i'd just be facing the same number of warriors for the rest of the game.
Only my second loss, but a sound thumping nonetheless.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/11/18 13:40:34
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
My deviantART Profile - Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Madness
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation |
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