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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 19:53:21
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Okay, this came up in a game yesterday. Everything points to the other guy being full of crapola, but I wanted to ask you guys first.
So, IG guy deep strikes Marbo. Marbo throws demo charge, almost kills some 'Crons. 'Crons decide not to shoot Marbo, but instead shoot Dante (Three-way game), turn ends. Now, back on the IG guy's turn, he goes to shoot Marbo's pistol, when the local Blood Angels guy (AKA the guy who has more tanks than Spess Mehrens) goes "Marbo can throw another demo charge."
My response is "lolno, he only has one." He goes "No, Marbo can always throw a demo charge, he has an unlimited number of them." I point to the part of the codex where it shows the Demo Charge, where it says "One Shot Only", and he goes "Well, Marbo never runs out of them."
In Marbo's stats, under Wargear, it says "Demolition charge". Not charges, CHARGE. Singular. Therefore, he threw his one charge, and since it's one shot only, he can't shoot another.
So, am I correct that Marbo has ONE Demo Charge, or is the other guy using some ultra-sleek bullet train of logic that somehow makes sense in some way?
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"Hah! Mephiston uses Sword of Sanguininus!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 19:56:00
Subject: Re:Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Imperial Recruit in Training
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He's full of it. Demo charges are one shot only, there's nothing in the rules anywhere that says Marbo is an exception.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 20:04:52
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Alright, I thought as much. Many thanks.
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"Hah! Mephiston uses Sword of Sanguininus!"
"Damn." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 20:07:06
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Lord of the Fleet
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Yep, he only has one. Ask your friend to point out the part of the Codex which says Marbo is an exception to the One Shot rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 20:14:00
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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To put it simply, the Blood Angels player was wrong. Demolition Charges are One-Use Only, and the one that Marbo carries doesn't obey any additional special rules that would allow him to fire it again.
Technically, Marbo still has his Demolition Charge - it's just that he can't fire it more than once.
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Triggerbaby wrote:In summary, here's your lunch and ask Miss Creaver if she has aloe lotion because I have taken you to school and you have been burned.
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I too can prove pretty much any assertion I please if I don't count all the evidence that contradicts it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 20:42:11
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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But if it said charges then would he have more than 1? Or is that not how its intended?
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Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 20:49:30
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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I'd assume as much. But I don't know of anything with more than one demo charge.
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"Hah! Mephiston uses Sword of Sanguininus!"
"Damn." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 21:03:05
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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lol.
Also, manticores only have 4 shots, but they get four shots PER TURN, therefore you roll up to 4D3 large blasts...
silly people are silly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/14 21:04:36
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Each Demolition Charge that a model possesses may be fired once, and only once.
It is, as yet, impossible to equip a model with more than one Demolition Charge - but, if it were somehow possible, they could fire each Demolition Charge once.
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Triggerbaby wrote:In summary, here's your lunch and ask Miss Creaver if she has aloe lotion because I have taken you to school and you have been burned.
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:I too can prove pretty much any assertion I please if I don't count all the evidence that contradicts it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/16 00:44:59
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Think of it literally.
You have a sniper rifle with one shot. You fire it. You technically still have it, but you cannot fire it.
Same with demo charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/16 02:58:16
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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Permissible rule system. Even if Marbo's rules said demo charges, your opponent would have have to find the rule that says 'Marbo is AWESOMESAUCE so can carry multiple demo charges'.
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/16 07:52:14
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Jaon wrote:Think of it literally.
You have a sniper rifle with one shot. You fire it. You technically still have it, but you cannot fire it.
Same with demo charge.
Except sniper rifles dont have "one shot" next to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/16 07:59:35
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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He didn't mean 'sniper rifles' he meant a sniper rifle. ^_^ Got 40k on da brain.
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"I already told you son, that milk isn't for developing bones. It's for developing character." - C&H |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/16 10:11:38
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Proud Phantom Titan
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... Might he be getting mixed up with one of the advisers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/16 11:16:23
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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Well, none of the Advisors drop demo charges. The closest I can think of is the Master of Ordnance, who drops an Earthshaker round with extra scatter, justified as him coordinating with Basilisk batteries WAY far away.
No ties to demo charges though.
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
707th Lubyan Aquila Banner Motor Rifle Regiment (6000 pts)
Battlefleet Tomania (2500 pts)
Visit my nation on Nation States!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/16 23:43:00
Subject: Marbo has infinite Demo Charges?
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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If Marbo could carry six demo charges, he would only be able to move 1 inch per turn , or would be an ogryn.
Sounds to me like the Blood Angel player Really wanted to take out those necrons.
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