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This came up in a game on friday. I had a unit of marines behind an outcropping of on of the administratum buildings with about 1"between the closest model and an outcropping of the building. My friend wanted to assault with the deciever and he was almost exactly 6" away in a straight line through the building. However, the outcropping would've been pretty much in the middle of his base after his assault move. Now, given the ability "Immune to Natural law", would he be able to assault anyway and end up in impassible terrain? There was literally no way to place his model in a way for it to remain there and for me to pile in on. It also would've been about 4-6" up.

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D=deceiver
M=marines
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Immune to Natural Law: C'tan never treat any terrain as impassible and are never required to make difficult terrain tests. They may float above impassible terrain. C'tan also count as having frag grenades when they attack models in cover.

No, as it says you cannot stay in impassable terrian...

I'd have thought if you had the codex on you to make that quote, you'd have read that part?

It says they float above and cannot claim to be inside terrain. So if he wants to assault, he'd have to be able to reach you from the top of the impassable terrain or be able to place on the other side where the model was clear of the terrain.

I don't have the codex on me and am not very familiar with necrons in general, but I thought it said you cannot claim to be in impassible terrain for shooting purposes. Can you quote me the page so I can look it up later, please?

Is the "outcrop" of the building impassable terrain or a part of a ruin? I believe if it's part of a ruin it can be moved through and you would just WMS the C'tan.

The outcrop was on the outside wall of a ruin.

Exact quote is:

C'tan ignore terrain when moving, will tend to float above impassable terrain and cannot claim to be 'inside' objects to avoid being shot at."

Really I guess you can try to WMS it and as long as a unit couldn't shoot at it anyway, you could place inside an object if you go by RAW...although you might have to premeasure the range for certain units to determine if it could or could not be shot at, and I don't think that would be allowed. For me it's just too cumbersome, so I consider my C'tan to be able to pass completely through an object or be able to land on top of impassable terrain, but they can never end a move partially or entirely inside an object. It's simple and imo in the spirit of the rule.

We played it exactly how you said and disallowed the assault. I was just wondering if anyone else had come across this problem.

You find another way the rules are broken everyday I guess

Maelstrom808 wrote:Exact quote is:

C'tan ignore terrain when moving, will tend to float above impassable terrain and cannot claim to be 'inside' objects to avoid being shot at."

Really I guess you can try to WMS it and as long as a unit couldn't shoot at it anyway, you could place inside an object if you go by RAW...although you might have to premeasure the range for certain units to determine if it could or could not be shot at, and I don't think that would be allowed. For me it's just too cumbersome, so I consider my C'tan to be able to pass completely through an object or be able to land on top of impassable terrain, but they can never end a move partially or entirely inside an object. It's simple and imo in the spirit of the rule.

I play with Ctan and we allowed the assault...although for us it was a tree in question.

Right on, did you put the model into the combat or just leave it off the board and simulate it being there?