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I have two lists, no big surprises just the tried and true good CSM units. I am looking for KP denial and good counters to current lists such as BA, SW, and DE. I am leaning toward the Nurgle list since it does not rely on psychic powers to be max effective (Lash will get hooded or something until I can squish the anti-psych). Which list is better and/or how would you change either one? Looking for feedback, thanks!

Nurgle List:
2xDaemon Princes with MoN and Wings
Greater Daemon
2x10 Plague Marines with Fist, 2xMelta in Rhinos (possibly trim and add lesser daemons for more scoring/assault)
3x2 Obliterators

Lash List:
2xLash Princes with Wings
2x10 Chaos Marines with IoK, 2xMelta, Fist, MB, in Rhinos (considering a few other options for troops here, I need melta AND lots of attacks is why I picked IoK over Zerks)
Defiler
2x3 Obliterators

I like the nurgle list if you drop the greater demon and switch the plague marines into 3x 8 in Rhino's (or 8,8,7 you get the idea, whatever you can afford).
I don't play chaos, but Greater demons always seem like a waste of point, especially when its coming in and acing a 50 point Plague Marine Champion.

BladeWalker wrote:

Nurgle List:
2xDaemon Princes with MoN and Wings
Greater Daemon
2x10 Plague Marines with Fist, 2xMelta in Rhinos (possibly trim and add lesser daemons for more scoring/assault)
3x2 Obliterators

Daemon Prince - wings, MoN, warp time
Daemon Prince - wings, MoN, nurgles rot
Summoned Greater Daemon

7 plague marines - champ w/ pf, 2 x melta, icon, rhino
7 plague marines - champ w/ pf, 2 x melta, rhino
7 lesser daemons

2 x obliterators
2 x obliterators
2 x obliterators

BladeWalker wrote:
Lash List:
2xLash Princes with Wings
2x10 Chaos Marines with IoK, 2xMelta, Fist, MB, in Rhinos (considering a few other options for troops here, I need melta AND lots of attacks is why I picked IoK over Zerks)
Defiler
2x3 Obliterators

Sorcerer - wings, MoS, LoS
Sorcerer - wings, MoS, LoS

7 plague marines - champ w/ pf, 2 x melta, rhino
7 plague marines - champ w/ pf, 2 x melta, rhino
8 Berserkers - champ w/pf, rhino

2 x obliterators
2 x obliterators
2 x obliterators

Good stuff, thanks Inigo. Which of your modified lists would you field in the current meta?

I think that the nurgle list would be much harder to kill

I like the Slaanesh best. I would get rid of a lot of the Obliterators and purchase more marines.

More marines = lets templates. You need the templates in a lash list.

I prefer the nurgle list.

Hey Inigo if you are still reading... in the Slaanesh list can you explain why you dropped the Defiler? I find that it can replace both the Greater Daemon in assault power as well as provide the pie plate for the Lashes, being a high priority target at 1500 it can also buy time for the rhinos/princes to get where they are going. I do like having the third scoring unit, I just wondered your reasoning on it.

Maybe rely on the Defiler and Oblits to pop tanks and go with:

2 Lash Princes (310)
2x3 Obliterators (450)
Defiler (150)
2x10 Berzerkers (590)
Champ/Fist
Rhino with Combi-Melta

Thoughts?