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Q: What happens when a vehicle tank shocks a unit that is
already falling back? (p68)
A: The tank shock will be resolved in the usual manor.
Note that passing the Moral check for a tank shock will not
cause the unit to regroup it will just prevent them from
fleeing again.







I'm confused

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1) Whoever asked that question did not know how to read the rule book.

2) Whoever answered that question did not know how to read the rule book.


So now you are going to have players trying to force this FAQ ruling on other players who are able to read the basic rules and want to follow the rules as written.

If this was an Errata I could understand it, but maybe there is an issue here that I am not seeing?

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Yeah, its a terribly written answer no matter how you slice it. Nurglitch's theory is that the first sentence of the answer is what covers 99% of the situations (resolve it in the usual manner) and the second sentence is written to handle those rare units that are able to choose to automatically pass or fail a morale test (Inquisitors, Marneus Calgar).


I personally think it is much more likely the FAQ author just didn't realize that the rules for falling back units include the proviso that they automatically fail any morale tests they are called on to take.


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yakface wrote:
Yeah, its a terribly written answer no matter how you slice it. Nurglitch's theory is that the first sentence of the answer is what covers 99% of the situations (resolve it in the usual manner) and the second sentence is written to handle those rare units that are able to choose to automatically pass or fail a morale test (Inquisitors, Marneus Calgar).


I personally think it is much more likely the FAQ author just didn't realize that the rules for falling back units include the proviso that they automatically fail any morale tests they are called on to take.



Ah, I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw this and thought "WTF?"

I was thinking I was missing something in the rules. Good to know it wasn't me

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Q: Will one model in a squad that is unable to Sweeping
Advance prevent the entire squad from making a
Sweeping Advance? (p40)
A: Yes.


Does this mean they will have to Errata thier FAQ to replace "squad" with "Unit"?

In Reference to me:
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Daemon-Archon Ren wrote:
Q: Will one model in a squad that is unable to Sweeping
Advance prevent the entire squad from making a
Sweeping Advance? (p40)
A: Yes.


Does this mean they will have to Errata thier FAQ to replace "squad" with "Unit"?


Look at Page 3 BRB: "Units" - "Warriors tend to band together to fight in squads, teams, sections or similarly named groups...we represent this by grouping models together into units."

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yakface wrote:
Yeah, its a terribly written answer no matter how you slice it. Nurglitch's theory is that the first sentence of the answer is what covers 99% of the situations (resolve it in the usual manner) and the second sentence is written to handle those rare units that are able to choose to automatically pass or fail a morale test (Inquisitors, Marneus Calgar).

I personally think it is much more likely the FAQ author just didn't realize that the rules for falling back units include the proviso that they automatically fail any morale tests they are called on to take.

I believe that what they were trying to point out (poorly, and mispelled manner) is that the Tank Shock is a Morale test but a Regrouping test is a Ld test.
Just because you might have a way to pass the Morale test does not mean that you can automatically regroup.

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The rules for regrouping consistently names the check a "leadership" check, so I'm inclined to think the guy who wrote the rules in the left column on page 46 is the one who made the mistake. The FAQ answer is entirely in line with the rules for Taking Morale Checks (Page 42).

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time wizard wrote:
Look at Page 3 BRB: "Units" - "Warriors tend to band together to fight in squads, teams, sections or similarly named groups...we represent this by grouping models together into units."


Then why do they bother including the "Replace the word squad with Unit" errata in most of their FAQs?

In Reference to me:
Emperors Faithful wrote: I'm certainly not going to attract the ire of the crazy-giant-child-eating-chicken-poster

Monster Rain wrote:
DAR just laid down the law so hard I think it broke.

 
   
 
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